Race format at Broward Nitro Shootout.

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Andy Brown

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On August 1, 2014 the Broward club headed by Jeremy Edge and Jerry Crowther will host a nitro only race.

The Race Format will be similar to the format used at the 1989 IMPBA Internats in Slidell, La., where the US-1 Champions were determined by 5 qualifying rounds and 3 finals rounds. The top 6 or 8 boats from the Qualifying rounds moved to the finals and the same top racers raced 3 times to determine the IMPBA US-1 Champions.

The NAVIGA World Champs are determined the same way, with 5 rounds of qualifying and 3 rounds of finals for the top 8 qualifiers.

The up coming Broward Nitro Shootout will run 4 Qualifying rounds and 3 finals rounds.

I personally enjoy this format very much and find the level of competition very high in the final rounds.

I am just curious to know how many racers would be intersted in this type of format. Perhaps other clubs would be interested in using the format.

This format does put a limit on the number of classes that could be run at an event. Hence, the races would need to be a little more specialized like the Broward "Nitro (only) Shootout".

Thoughts?
 
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I like the format AB, as you mentioned the trick is to be specific on Nitro only +

classes offered / boats per entry / total boats, ect - To handle that amount of rounds, just food for thought.

We do some neat stuff for the Herb Stewart Tunnel race in Brandon -

LeMans starts in select classes /Tri Oval / 5 Heats 1 Dump Round / Timed Tri-Oval laps-optional / 2 Classes required for highest total points for event winner and much more......

IMHO , Putting a twist into what we do all the time at Specialty Races is a BLAST
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The Tri Oval ROCKS btw
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Andy G
 
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I do not intend to be negative so please do not take it that way. I am simply giving input. I really like the idea of a nitro only race, there is no way I would attend a race with eight boat heats.
 
No offense taking Eric, we will be running 6 boat heats with the top 6 moving to the finals.

No 8 boat heats...
 
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I think it all depends on the level of the boats and those driving that make the difference on how many boat to a heat.

If you have top driver and boats that can make it to the end of the heat it is a fun race, but if you have a lake full of dead boats and only two finish it can be just a stay out of trouble pain in the you know what.

I like the qualifying round idea but when it come to the finals you should limit it to the top 5.

then give trophy's for this round to all 5 boats.

This way when you get to the finals it will be a very good race for sure.

You get 5 really fast boats on a course it is a hand full but still fun.
 
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I do not intend to be negative so please do not take it that way. I am simply giving input. I really like the idea of a nitro only race, there is no way I would attend a race with eight boat heats.
I simply stated the exact way it is run in NAVIGA. I could not remember what IMPBA ran, so I wrote "6 or 8".

I was simply putting an idea out there for a race with Qualifying rounds and a multi heat final.

Also, I did not intend this to be limited to Nitro only races. I was just using the up coming Broward Nitro race as an example.

Perhaps 4 boats would suit some racers better? If so let us know.

Maybe some racers would like to end the race when they are in the lead?
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2010 NAVIGA World Champs. 15 cc Hydro. 8 boat heat. All 8 were running 5 laps into the race. 6 boats finished.

 
Awesome its cold frozen and I'm bored. You guy's don't realize how much pics and videos keep things going for us so far away. Looking forward on coming down for the fall nationals this year. Andy are you going to do a world champion ship race
 
Format sounds like alot of fun. And 5 to 6 boat heats would be ideal!!.. Especially for Riggers due to when their dead in the water they're hard to see.
 
Format sounds like alot of fun. And 5 to 6 boat heats would be ideal!!.. Especially for Riggers due to when their dead in the water they're hard to see.
Many years ago the organizers of a certain BIG race, made a rule that if you hit a dead boat you would be DQ'd from the following heat.

They were trying to reduce the amount of dead boats being hit.

I see it from another perspective. I think the penelty should go to the boat that is dead on the course, because it has become a hazard on the course.

It may help to promote more 'Relaible set ups and Safer driving habits.
 
Robert I think Andy was suggesting something new and not trying to quote the rules.

iv) If a driver hits a called dead boat, that driver will be disqualified for
that heat and will receive zero points.
v) If a driver finishes a race and then hits a dead boat. that driver will be
disqualified from that heat and will lose the points which he has
earned for that heat. The remaining drivers, if any, will not advance a
position when they finish the heat. The points that the offending
driver lost due to the disqualification will not be awarded to the next
driver who finishes.
 
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Robert I think Andy was suggesting something new and not trying to quote the rules.

iv) If a driver hits a called dead boat, that driver will be disqualified for
that heat and will receive zero points.
v) If a driver finishes a race and then hits a dead boat. that driver will be
disqualified from that heat and will lose the points which he has
earned for that heat. The remaining drivers, if any, will not advance a
position when they finish the heat. The points that the offending
driver lost due to the disqualification will not be awarded to the next
driver who finishes.
Yes, I was talking about the rule set up by a club for their own race. It was not a district rule.

The rule was: a boat that hit a dead boat was DQ'd from that heat, BUT was ALSO DQ'd for the NEXT heat.

What about the guy that parked his boat right in the sun glare where it could not be seen. He is not at fault? Why should he earn points for making a start?

It is interesting the mind set about hitting a dead boat.

Sometimes it is very difficult to locate dead boats in time to avoid them...and sometimes they are very difficult to see by anyone.

Nobody purposely runs over a dead boat...the conseqences of damage to their own boat is often severe.

Yes, no one purposely parks their boat in the sun glare either.

Why is there a penelty for one boat and not the other? That is my point.

If a boat gets cut off by another boat that incures an infraction penlty, then the dead boat should not get a penelty for being dead on the course....but if the boat is dead

because he blew it off in the back straight...then yes that dead boat should get some kind of penelty. IMO
 
I cant really say I agree with that one AB - start points only , cause they earned that, but to penalize them further for racing hard and failing and or breaking- not so much. Do dead boats suck, yes, but everyone else on the course has to deal with em as well.

You have raced Brandon in the Spring and had an early heat a time or two Im sure- the back stretch is nearly impossible to see for the first few heats, but thats part of a good pitman and spotters in the tower doing THEIR JOB, the rest is up to the guy holding the radio- IF your not sure or cant pick it up- slow down and or get out of the lanes till you can. IMHO its worth loosing a heat NOT to run someone thats dead over- could be you
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Just my worthless .02
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Andy
 
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