IMPBA potential presidents???

[Brian_Nelsen]

Don

This is exactly what I was thinking we need. Please e-mail me so I can get as much information from you as possible. This type of thing can get families involved in the sport. This could also play perfectly with the novice classes that are currently running.

Also Please anyone running novice classes e-mail me your format and information so your ideas can be included in the discussions the IMPBA group will be having in late November.

Thank you and remember to get your noise rule ballots to your district directors.

Brian Nelsen

IMPBA Vice President

 

[Norm Doerr]

I would have to agree with Allan on this one no riggers in these type of classes. I do agree that we need to have these classes and as Bill has stated either one of us would work to that end. I would like to throw something else in the mix, I know this will be an insurance issue but it merits looking into. Some times when I am out running my boats my friends and people want to try it out. What about having try a boat day. There are many issues with this idea and I have a some what loose plan that may work. Any Ideas out there?

Brian Nelsen

IMPBA Vice President

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This has come up a lot with us. What I did was have a disclaimer/responsibility form. We ran behind a Bar Resturant for a long time and the owner had EVERYONE that wanted to run or watch up close sign these things. We got a few people interested. Just don't let them drive an 80 mile an hour twin and you would be fine. We just let them drive a gas boat or a nitro powered mono. The landowner came up with the idea. No one was liable according to his attorney. Too bad the guy did not pay his taxes or we would still be there. LOL

 

[Randy Rapedius]

Brian.

I gave a complete Rookie Class presentation to the IMPBA Board of Directors at the 2003 Internats meeting. (not sure if you were there). Pat was using my recommendations as a base for starting a recognized IMPBA class for the beginners. Check the meeting minutes and you will find the info.

I started the ball rolling 6 or 7 years ago in District 1. We run very simple rules and it has worked GREAT.

1. no age restrictions

2. No nitro over .45

3. no riggers

4. must have an experienced pit person

5. have fun

The idea is get the new boater on the water regardless of what boat or engine they have. Many people have issue with this thinking thinking we must make the playing field as even as possible. I've had racers say we should only use 21 tunnels with K&B's using 20% nitro and only allowed to use stock x437/3 props. Giving the new racers all these restrictions will limit the amount of participants and it will push away the poor guy who just bought a .15 Miss Bud at the LHS. My philosophy is simple. Let them run what they brung. Get them on the water as quick as possible to learn in an unintimidating atmosphere. It is not about making all the boats the same. It is about getting started in this hobby and having fun.

Wake up IMPBA ................. Inactive Randy

 

[bzubee]

Main thing on the Kids /rookie class is tto allow thenm to run whatever type of boat they have purchaced, other than maybe a rigger. I have thought about DOn's idea for a couple of years but the question has always come up about insurance coverage and I could never get a response from the Board members or good answers about insurance coverage for this type of program. This is exactly what we need to get the Model boating world to increase the memberships.

 

[John Knight]

I believe that Randy's recommendation is absolutely correct. A national approved class will go a long way for local clubs to support having the class offered at the races. Heavens know I have tried the past 3 years in district 13 and have gotten nowhere. The class was offered at our local race but never enough to run it. Confusion over the approved boats for the class was one reason I am sure. If we do not keep bringing new blood each year, we are a dying breed and the 1K + boats we have will not be worth anything before long.

One additional recommendation. Add gas class to the novice or rookie class as an eligible hull & engine. I attended one race this year that has a novice class. It had several gas boats entered. The youngsters were all over the course with those big boats but that it the way it should be. It is a training class to whet their appetite for racing. Fun and entertaining it was for all. Had to close the eyes a couple of times as well. A scale or similiar hull is not for novice!

Heck, I remember Warren Finch, an accomplished flyer, and father to our venerable John Finch, running as a novice boat racer just a few years ago at ODMBA's race. He was not new to R/C but was to our boats. And he was over 70 years young! What a shining example. Open the class to all ages and not just a kids class. Novice is not a respector of age.

To the new leadership of IMPBA: Get with the times or get out of the job. Staying in neutral will not serve anyone any benefit but yourself!

 

[Brian_Nelsen]

One thing I can assure all of you is that if elected president of the IMPBA I will do everything in my power to get this class up and running. I will need input from all of you but it can and will be done.

Randy

I was not at the meeting but have the minutes and a ton of peoples notes on the presentation. Thank you

Brian Nelsen

IMPBA Vice President

 

[Don Ferrette]

Here's another pic of the kids at the Centennial race. In the back row is district 12 director Tracy Dolphin, myself, & Larry Grosser of Hammerdown Racing who sponsored the IMPBA kids membership fees.

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I also forgot to mention we supplied the boats ready to run. The parents signed up the kids, I handed each kid his/her own pair of rather cool sunglasses & a boat lapel pin ( god bless Ebay ) & a boat to race. We used the pull start .12 Nitro Vee. One thing we have decided is that next year it will be electric to keep getting all the kids running quickly. B)

 

[Brian_Nelsen]

Don

More good information thank you. There is no reason electric and gas boats cannot be part of these novice classes and demo days. We still have a ton of work to do here but we have good solid information to start with.

Thank you

Brian Nelsen

IMPBA Vice President

 

[bzubee]

Don how many kids di dyou sign up this year for your "try R/C boating day"? I take it you signed them up as junior members?

 

[Don Ferrette]

Don how many kids did you sign up this year for your "try R/C boating day"? I take it you signed them up as junior members?

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I think somewhere between 12 & 15, I'd have to check to be exact. All I know is I was surrounded by them for 1/2 the day. Granted, I'd bet some parents signed the kids up to quiet them up but I know for a fact of 3 or 4 PARENTS who thought this would be a neat thing for the kid to do. Get's them out from in front of the T.V. I heard more than one parent comment. B)

 

[Don Ferrette]

DonMore good information thank you. There is no reason electric and gas boats cannot be part of these novice classes and demo days. We still have a ton of work to do here but we have good solid information to start with.

Thank you

Brian Nelsen

IMPBA Vice President

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Trust me on the electric thing. Those little pull starts wore us out. We had all of them needled the day before but by that day they were off. We had the kids & parents sign up from Friday open water until just before the kids event which took place during an extended lunch break on Sunday. The cheap electrics & extra batteries are the way to go for something like this. Also it is a way to get the local hobby shop involved. Don't be scared to solicit their help. HobbyWorks has donated $1,500 to this race 2 years running.

 

[bzubee]

District 12 has had a successful novice class in place for a few years now. We keep it simple nitro up to .45 & any gas but no riggers. No age or time restriction & you can leave novice when you choose.
As for a "boat day" for 2 years now I have run the "let the kids try it" at the Centennial Park race in Maryland. This has been a HUGE success, the park & community absolutely love it. Talk about great PR for boating, it makes all the local papers!! The parents must be present, we sign up the kids to IMPBA on the spot & sponsor the fee.

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I checked in the latest membership listing for IMPBA and have not found many kids membership for your area have you sent in the membership applications to Noel? DI dyou sign them up as Junior members or Family members? If the application haven't been sent in you are putting your lake site at risk. The solution to allow this type of activity is what Brian and myself both want to work out but clubs doing this on their own are taking a risk. If applications are filled out and not sent in that is a form of insurance fraud and should not be done. I am sure your club is not doing that. If your club chooses to run at risk that is your business but please don't do it a snactioned event.

Bill Zuber

 

[Don Ferrette]

District 12 has had a successful novice class in place for a few years now. We keep it simple nitro up to .45 & any gas but no riggers. No age or time restriction & you can leave novice when you choose.
As for a "boat day" for 2 years now I have run the "let the kids try it" at the Centennial Park race in Maryland. This has been a HUGE success, the park & community absolutely love it. Talk about great PR for boating, it makes all the local papers!! The parents must be present, we sign up the kids to IMPBA on the spot & sponsor the fee.

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I checked in the latest membership listing for IMPBA and have not found many kids membership for your area have you sent in the membership applications to Noel? DI dyou sign them up as Junior members or Family members? If the application haven't been sent in you are putting your lake site at risk. The solution to allow this type of activity is what Brian and myself both want to work out but clubs doing this on their own are taking a risk. If applications are filled out and not sent in that is a form of insurance fraud and should not be done. I am sure your club is not doing that. If your club chooses to run at risk that is your business but please don't do it a snactioned event.

Bill Zuber

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Considering it takes 3-6 months for ANYTHING to happen involving membership apps I wouldn't expect this as any surprise, especially since this event was in SEPTEMBER! I haven't seen an "updated" membership list in a loooong time!!! I did my part & ran the kids thing, I don't even live in the D.C. area anymore but gave my time to my old club, the event, & the KIDS nonetheless because it's the RIGHT thing to do. These apps all were placed in the hands of the district director I was told. As for you inferring insurance fraud & such gimme a break, don't pee on the parade, I'd like to keep the kids thing on a positive track. :angry:

 

[Brian_Nelsen]

Well the polls are closed as it where, ballots will still be in the mail for the next few days but must have been post marked by the 31st. We should know in a week or so who the next president of the IMPBA is.

I would like to take this time to thank those that supported me in this election. If elected I will serve you the members to the best of my ability.

Thanks again to those who supported me.

Brian Nelsen

IMPBA Vice President

 

[bzubee]

Don, I wasn't implying insurance fraud on your part or the clubs but some clubs in the past have actually done this type of thing on purpose. As for the "LOOONG delay on membership apps" for the most part that is incorrect. Delays are usually due to some other reason than the secretary's fault, ie. some one still has applications in thier briefcase, no check included with app., or the wife never actually mailed the app. THe kids day is a good idea and like I said in a response previously if elected I plan on getting something like that implmented on an organizational level and actually covered by the insurance.

Bill Zuber

 

[Don Ferrette]

"As for the "LOOONG delay on membership apps" for the most part that is incorrect. Delays are usually due to some other reason than the secretary's fault, ie. some one still has applications in thier briefcase, no check included with app., or the wife never actually mailed the app."

Well then how come this wasn't a problem when Priscilla was in there........ <_<

 

[bzubee]

"As for the "LOOONG delay on membership apps" for the most part that is incorrect. Delays are usually due to some other reason than the secretary's fault, ie. some one still has applications in thier briefcase, no check included with app., or the wife never actually mailed the app."
Well then how come this wasn't a problem when Priscilla was in there........ <_<

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I guess because Priscilla was the exceptional once in a life time secretary plus her husband was the President and Noel is still better than the last 3 secretaries we had after Priscilla. Plus after 9/11 lots of stuff has changed in the postal service. Ask a postman like Glover Jeffcoat he explianed alot of the problems the IMPBA has been having with postal deliveries. Again I personally have looked into some complaints from the members and found that the majority was not the fault of the secretary.

 

[Don Ferrette]

I am beginning to think we will never have another as good as Pris was & it wouldn't have mattered who was prez. B)

I still think there is room for improvement..........and not just at that position either. <_<

 

[bzubee]

I am beginning to think we will never have another as good as Pris was & it wouldn't have mattered who was prez.  B) I still think there is room for improvement..........and not just at that position either.  <_<

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I AGREE WITH YOU!

 

[riph]

"As for the "LOOONG delay on membership apps" for the most part that is incorrect. Delays are usually due to some other reason than the secretary's fault, ie. some one still has applications in thier briefcase, no check included with app., or the wife never actually mailed the app."
Well then how come this wasn't a problem when Priscilla was in there........ <_<

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I guess because Priscilla was the exceptional once in a life time secretary plus her husband was the President and Noel is still better than the last 3 secretaries we had after Priscilla. Plus after 9/11 lots of stuff has changed in the postal service. Ask a postman like Glover Jeffcoat he explianed alot of the problems the IMPBA has been having with postal deliveries. Again I personally have looked into some complaints from the members and found that the majority was not the fault of the secretary.

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I agree with Zuber. I have never had a problem with the present secretary. I think many of the members bring the problems on themselves. I also think the present president's ideas of how the secretary's duties should be addressed has been some of the problem. BTW, who is the new president??