IMPBA 2010 International Regatta

[Ray Sametz]

I would like to see the US-1 format run the way it always was. Run the specialty classes after US-1 competition is completed.

Mike Z. Count me in on that phone conversation.

Don't get me wrong. After last years problems with the internats, I think it's wonderful that PMBC and Mike Lainge have this organized so soon. I know that it will be a great event.

I hope I'm not the 19th scale boat to enter and be left out watching.

Tom

Only 190 days left,

get those entries in.

 

[Mike Hallam]

I don't agree at all with an 18 boat limit per class. Nitro boating is on the decline and we're trying to limit the number of boats. Also, running time trials on the last day just doesn't make any sense. I might run in a class on Sunday and Monday and then have to wait until Saturday to run for 2 minutes. All of the expenses incurred make that an expensive run, almost as much as my drag boat!!! Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[SayMikey]

I don't agree at all with an 18 boat limit per class. Nitro boating is on the decline and we're trying to limit the number of boats. Also, running time trials on the last day just doesn't make any sense. I might run in a class on Sunday and Monday and then have to wait until Saturday to run for 2 minutes. All of the expenses incurred make that an expensive run, almost as much as my drag boat!!! Just my 2 cents worth.

It would be wiser to limit boaters to 2-3 US-1 classes not 18 boats a class. This is the Internats where everyone is welcome. Also limiting freqs so you can manipulate building heats is ok for a regular race(SHOOT OUT FORMAT) but not the Nats,three factors are already involved thats plenty. And last but not least its a must that US-1 classes all run entirety first. This is a premier site with great folks putting it on lets PLEASE try to use the Internats format in a form we all understand and has worked for years.........Mike Schindler

 

[Buddy Benedict]

I have to agree with Mike, To limit the boat entries for the biggest IMPBA race is not wise. Also running it as a shootout race will just cause you more headaches. My questions are: When did B Sport Tunnel and the 4 gas classes become US1 classes? Also running the straightaway time trials on Saturday is a big risk. If the weather gets bad there may not be enough time for their completion and there won't be any US1 champs. All US1 classes should be ran and finished before any specialty classes start. I think there will be more people at this race if you run it as a traditional race.

Just my opinion,

Buddy Benedict

 

[Don Ferrette]

It would be wiser to limit boaters to 2-3 US-1 classes

Take a weeks time off to run two boats??? I don't think so. :blink:

 

[El Zorro]

Everyone here with questions about the internats needs to refer to the IMPBA Rule Book. EVERYTHING is in the Rule Book on what you can and cannot do in running the Internats. It is my hope that all of the parties involved with the 2010 International Regatta will refer back to what is in the IMPBA Rule Book and try again.

I would also like to thank Mike Laing and the PMBC for stepping up to the plate again to host the 2010 IMPBA International Regatta. This undertaking is by no means no easy feat ( been there, done that! ). What they did last year was just short of spectacular! I know that the 2010 Internats will be the premier event of the year like it should be.

Dick Tyndall

Past President, IMPBA 1995-1998

Contest Director, 1999 IMPBA International Regatta

 

[Grimracer]

Don think about this for a sec..

LOTS of dudes run 2 or 3 US-1 classes anyway.. some more but not that many when you do the numbers. I run quite a few boats at the Internats, 4 for US-1 and two in specialty. If I had to drop a class to run against 30 of the best and not of 18.. I might do that.. I dont want a EASY/R US-1.

I think that’s all Mikey was saying.

Thinking more.. I really have very fond memories of a second place finish at one race I went to.. man.. second place.. I WAS AMPED.. o yea..over 60 boats resisted in the class. I was HAPPY to be granted a 2nd.

ROCK ON DUDE!

ALL the confusion regarding this is lack understanding and to host an Internats it can be very confusing. I feel it is #1s DUTY to MAKE SURE the host club as a FULL understanding of the dutys and rules of hosting this race and MAKE NO ASUMPTIONS.

The Performance club has done this race before but the last time was to "Save it" in 09. (Thank you for that) I also have a feeling that the "one driving force" behind the 2010 Internats (Its always one or two very hard working club members) might be switching duties regarding this event. Again an assumption, but Im not #1 !

 

[Don Ferrette]

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm grateful beyond words that Mike's group is doing this and I cannot wait to be a part of it, can't get here soon enough. B)

 

[Tony Jacuzzi]

Gents:

The 18 boat limit is used on the assumption that each and every US-1 class will have 18 boats, every race day is based on an approximate maximum number of heats that they need to run to get completed. If a class has 12 boats that means that there is 1 heat of six boats available for another class. Any class that doesnt have a minimum of 6 boats will not run. I doubt that there will be 18 E monos (this has not been a US-1 class for several years now because of no entries), or E Tunnel or F tunnel. All of those classes will likely have additional heats available to push towards the classes that have lots of entries and need them. The key is getting the entries in early enough that Mike and his team can get the information out there. I realy doubt that this will be an issue I think there will be spots for everyone.

 

[Mike Laing]

As Tony stated. If every class fills, 18 boats per class is where we're at to make sure there is enough time to get the event done. As Tony stated, if there is short classes, which I'm sure there will be, heavy classes can run more entries. Yes, we're trying to get B Sport Tunnel to run for US-1 in 2010, a very popular class that should have run for US-1 years ago. If we read the rule book, I guess Sport 40 has to be a special event class and will be taken off the US-1 list. I'm trying my hardest to keep a positive attitude, while reading all the posts, and not to regret the efforts of my club. I have been to the last four regatta's and have not seen a class with 60 entries, or even close to that number. What I have witnessed is the number of entries to be on a decline over those years (not counting 2009). I have been working very closely with your IMPBA Officials in planning this years event, and through some minor changes, hope to help put some new life in this event.

If you really think running two Novice classes, is going to make or break the Internats, I can move them to Saturday afternoon. Does this also mean we have to cancel the night race? If we read the rule book, I guess so, because it's a special event class also.

If your not ready to race where the best, race against the best, we can go back to the luck of the draw format. I've used the (shoot out) format and really like it. Even though it causes me a lot more work building the heats, what it does do, is run the best against the best, keeps the scores very close, and also gives a person with one bad heat, a chance to get back into it. If drivers really don't want to beat the best of the best on their way to the US-1 title, we'll change it.

Running the oval trials after the heat racing does two things and we proved this in 2009. One, it saves time, and two it avoids Thursday and half of Friday as in 2007, doing nothing but trials. Yes, it could rain on Saturday, and Thursday and Friday, we just have to deal with it, and plan around that chance.

I believe there is a IMPBA board meeting next week, and maybe some more answers will come from that.

Mike Laing

PMBC President

 

[teddy dauphinee]

What happened to 1/8 scale class and Sport 20 class. I thought they were pretty full classes.

Also for those not knowing...Gas boats do qualify for US-1 format. The 1st Gas Nationals ran that format. Now if they should be here at this nats or not I don't know about that. Gas racers can handle the US-1 format seeing as every year I see more and more Nitro racers turning to gas. Some run both styles and some are just converting over to gas.

Personally I liked the Special events weekend with the stuff there and not split during the week. It gave me another race to attend during the year. With this format it might be hard for some gas only racers to spend 600 plus just to get the prestigious US-1 title. Also I see where there are nitro racers that will race in the first 2 days then bail on the last day just because of having to sit around so long and pay for a hotel.

I understand the host club is allowed to modify the layout of the race with the board's approval. I just think you would get a better turn out with the old format. The limiting of boats...then saying if one class doesn't fill up we will contact those in the fuller classes that they can race. Yeah good luck with that. If it were me and I sent my entry in and got dropped for a couple classes I go find another place to go race. I don't wait around to see if maybe I can hopefully get the lucky golden ticket and be allowed into the IMPBA Nationals.

Maybe this format should of been put out to the public before it was put on a flyer so you could make an informed decision of what might transpire so people don't bash it before it starts. Seeing as it is already done we will have to adhere by it.

Good luck to all who get the lucky chance to race.

 

[seaducerpete]

I dont remember what year it was but sport 40 was voted in as a us1 class

 

[dr gary turner]

Keep the standard format for US-1 and the approved hulls for US-1. I would not limit the number of boats in any of the classes. I believe there is a minimal number of entries to make a US-1 class. The closer you can adhere to the traditional Internats, the more successful it will be. All of the US-1 races and trophy trials takes precedent over specialty classes and events.

We run upards of 6-7 boats at the Nats. If one classes have limits on the numbers we may not be able to run of our classes. If there are only 6 or 7 boats in a class, the time is automatically reduced to run the class.

A look back: Years ago I president of the largest R/C plane club in B'ham with 6 runways. A group felt we had TOO MANY members and planes and they had to wait to get a freq clip to fly. SOOOOOOOO we did not accept any new members for a while. The club eventually totally died. It has been resurected in recent years.

Stick to the traditional format, classes and running of the Nats and it will do just fine. Doc

 

[Grimracer]

I think docs right..

You know its only one time a year that a person can get a Nitro US-1. Its a very special format and in my opinion does not need to be re-vamped to make it.. dare I say better?.

Its also important in my opinion to have the last two days the specially days.

When you are done racing for US-1 and you have the RC boat sickness like me.. Stick around for more when the weekend race comes! The bottom line is the weekend race is its own entity and could be totally dropped with no consequences to the trueness of the event. It’s a fact.

Having said this its great to have a novice race, add in some fast classes too and let the beginners and hot shoes have at it in the weekend race.

I really hope the host club and the IMPBA takes a close look at this. Im coming anyway so its no skin off my back but to change the event for the sake of saying it is different does not make sense to me. Cuz truth is im having a real hard time seeing the advantages to the posted format.

Thanks for reading

Grimracer

 

[Ray Sametz]

Keep the standard format for US-1 and the approved hulls for US-1. I would not limit the number of boats in any of the classes. I believe there is a minimal number of entries to make a US-1 class. The closer you can adhere to the traditional Internats, the more successful it will be. All of the US-1 races and trophy trials takes precedent over specialty classes and events.

We run upards of 6-7 boats at the Nats. If one classes have limits on the numbers we may not be able to run of our classes. If there are only 6 or 7 boats in a class, the time is automatically reduced to run the class.

A look back: Years ago I president of the largest R/C plane club in B'ham with 6 runways. A group felt we had TOO MANY members and planes and they had to wait to get a freq clip to fly. SOOOOOOOO we did not accept any new members for a while. The club eventually totally died. It has been resurected in recent years.

Stick to the traditional format, classes and running of the Nats and it will do just fine. Doc

Trust me,"Im a Doctor"

 

[Stephan Peterson]

If I am not mistaken 2005 was the first year Sport 40 was a US1 class. You remember that year don't , you Phil Thomas. Jackson Ten.

 

[SayMikey]

If I am not mistaken 2005 was the first year Sport 40 was a US1 class. You remember that year don't , you Phil Thomas. Jackson Ten.

Steve remembers the GALL STONE and the Double SCALE AND SPORT40 AWESOME JOB STEVO

 

[Grimracer]

Steve has STONES!

Hea ho buddy.. hope all well

Grim

 

[mprfrk440]

Hey Mike!

Thanks for getting this done so early! Me Time will be there to broadcast LIVE!!!! We are really looking forward to it!! I will get with you on the details of where we will need to set up and such!!!

Thanks for inviting us and we look forward to seeing everyone!!

Kerri Carter

 

[dr gary turner]

Keep the standard format for US-1 and the approved hulls for US-1. I would not limit the number of boats in any of the classes. I believe there is a minimal number of entries to make a US-1 class. The closer you can adhere to the traditional Internats, the more successful it will be. All of the US-1 races and trophy trials takes precedent over specialty classes and events.

We run upards of 6-7 boats at the Nats. If one classes have limits on the numbers we may not be able to run of our classes. If there are only 6 or 7 boats in a class, the time is automatically reduced to run the class.

A look back: Years ago I president of the largest R/C plane club in B'ham with 6 runways. A group felt we had TOO MANY members and planes and they had to wait to get a freq clip to fly. SOOOOOOOO we did not accept any new members for a while. The club eventually totally died. It has been resurected in recent years.

Stick to the traditional format, classes and running of the Nats and it will do just fine. Doc

Trust me,"Im a Doctor"

If you can't trust your DOCTOR who can you trust??????????????? Doc