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Ron, that boat was supposed ot be running by now and I was thinking of entering it at the Saginaw race to get some time on it but it looks like that ain't gonna happen either. :(

Yes, the RTR rules are vague. Last year the Vegas' were mostly the boat of choice but with it stating RTR class that doesn't specify hydro only or displacement limits. The RTR rules don't quite say that it has to be any certain type of hull or engine size otherwise we'd have to go over what a RTR boat is. I'm not typing this to open a big old can of worms as a Warehouse Hobbies Silex could be considered a RTR boat if you bought it complete from Tony. This is why entrants would like to know what can and can't be run in this class at this event.

Stu, throw me into whatever class that I can run my Cat in, I just want to race there!

It wouldn't have hurt to have had something posted over at Jim's RC Boat Dock as a lot of gas boaters could be missing this great race and not know about it. I'm sure that Jim, Dom or Mike would pin it there.
 
Ron Olson said:
Ron, that boat was supposed ot be running by now and I was thinking of entering it at the Saginaw race to get some time on it but it looks like that ain't gonna happen either. :(

Yes, the RTR rules are vague. Last year the Vegas' were mostly the boat of choice but with it stating RTR class that doesn't specify hydro only or displacement limits. The RTR rules don't quite say that it has to be any certain type of hull or engine size otherwise we'd have to go over what a RTR boat is. I'm not typing this to open a big old can of worms as a Warehouse Hobbies Silex could be considered a RTR boat if you bought it complete from Tony. This is why entrants would like to know what can and can't be run in this class at this event.

Stu, throw me into whatever class that I can run my Cat in, I just want to race there!

It wouldn't have hurt to have had something posted over at Jim's RC Boat Dock as a lot of gas boaters could be missing this great race and not know about it. I'm sure that Jim, Dom or Mike would pin it there.
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Yes, I was just wondering what is considered legal to run in the RTR class....You can buy the VS1 w/OS outboard and radio pretty much RTR from Tower. Just wondering if its just the Vegas/Proboat stuff........

Jr.
 
If they run D-14 rules for RTR, as they have in the past, the class is for Vegas and Proboat Sport Hydros only,

with a few minor changes.

Changes you can make include

Any paint scheme

Any Radio System

The Exhaust may be changed to any legal exhaust per noise rules.

The engine may be changed as long as it is from the same manufacturer as the boat hull and doesn’t exceed the

.18 cc max. (ie. you may switch the engine in a ProBoat as long as you use a ProBoat manufactured engine. This boat comes with a ProBoat .15 and may be changed to a ProBoat .18)

I hope this helps explain what boats can be run and what changes can be made.

DonB
 
P THOMAS said:
Stuart Barr said:
We are going to extend the entry cut off to August 14th. Entries must be received by then. Also, minimum class entries will be reduced from 12 to 6. At this point, all classes offered will be run except Gas Cat. I have only two entries for this to date. We have 200 boats entered and 80 drivers coming. Class break down:

B Hydro-25

D Hydro-18

E Hydro-12

F Hydro-9

Sport 20-9

Sport 40-18

Scale-22

RTR-7

B Sport Outboard-16

Open Outboard-6

Open Mono-11

Open Gas-12

Gas Cat-2

Unlimited-9

Thunder Boat-13

Multi-Engine-10

Stu Barr
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Nice to see the turn out for the sports and scale class.

B hydro leading the entrys again.

There should be about 40 boats in the unlimited class with all the D, E, and F hydro entries. Throw in some of those twins too. Fast gas boat would be a great Unlimited entry.

Whats Stu have to do, :blink: give a car away for Unlimited class. :p :p
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I'm going to force myself to have a fast gas boat. Stu could you swap me from Open Gas to Unlimited?

Thanks,

Jeff Schindler
 
Jeff, you're more than welcome to run a slow gas boat also, especially if you race against me or my kid! :lol:

BTW, anyone that's a member here that stops by my trailer can get free cold bottled water. This offer is only to racers or their support people only.
 
Stu,

just to give heads-up of my entry, it's on the way B Tunnel and Open Tunnel both 2.4ghz, impba 19505 S...

thanks

jul

cincy boat club
 
Hey Mike Schindler,

Your name came up as the best person to define what is "RTR". Would you post this and this is what we will recognize for the class at Hobart.

Thanks,

Stu
 
This is from the District 14 Point series flyer from last year.

RTR .18 Rules

Changes you can make include:

Any paint scheme

Any Radio System

The Exhaust may be changed to any legal exhaust per noise rules.

The engine may be changed as long as it is from the same manufacturer as the boat hull and doesn’t exceed the .18 cc max. (ie. you may switch the engine in a ProBoat as long as you use a ProBoat manufactured engine. This boat comes with a ProBoat .15 and may be changed to a ProBoat .18)

In the interest of time during all RTR races the Half Mill course will be in effect. Half Mill Means you throw your boat in the water, complete one lap, then you may cut the course between the number 6 buoy and the start clock. Boats coming down the back straight have right-of-way, you may move into any lane not taken by another boat as long as you have 3 boat lengths. This will tighten up the start and give us some GREAT RACING.

This is from the Aquacraft Site:

Production Sport Hydroplane Racing Rules (Nitro Engines)

To be allowed entry, your model boat must meet all of these criteria:

* It must be intended for the R/C hobby market.

* It must be distributed to and available from hobby shops and e-commerce nationwide.

* It must be a full-body hydroplane (known in the modeling industry as "Sport Hydroplane").

* It cannot resemble outrigger hydroplanes, tunnel hulls or catamarans.

* Its engine displacement must not exceed 0.189 cubic inches.

You must race your boat only as it was designed by the manufacturer, with the following exceptions:

* You may use any radio equipment.

* You may use any glow plug.

* You may use any glow engine fuel (for example, with any nitro percentage).

* You may upgrade to any engine starting system, including changing the flywheel and cable coupler.

* You may use any propeller designed and sized for the stub shaft (but it is not legal, for example, to use 3/16" props on a 1/8" stub shaft).

* You may use any production turn fin and turn fin bracket.

* You may sharpen and polish hardware.

* You may change any silicone part, such as the fuel line or pipe coupler.

* You may paint your boat however you wish - in fact, we encourage it!

* You may scuff the paint.

Any of the following will disqualify your boat from racing:

* You cannot modify the engine.

* You cannot modify the hull or remove detail parts.

* You cannot modify the tuned exhaust system.

* You cannot add an on-board fuel mixture system.

* You cannot use hand-made parts.

* Performance-enhancing repairs are also prohibited.

If it's not mentioned here...it's not legal!

The Race Course

The course is set up as an oval, with boats racing in a clockwise direction. Its length and width, as well as the number of laps to be raced (usually six), are up to the host.

A minimum of seven buoys — six course buoys and one start line buoy — are placed in the water. The front set of buoys should be approximately 50 feet from the driver's shoreline.

Three buoys (numbers 1, 2 and 3) are arranged on the left side of the course, and three buoys are positioned on the right side (numbers 4, 5 and 6). Typically, the start buoy is placed in the center of the course. You are not allowed to "cut the course", or run inside the buoys, at any time - before, during or after the race.

To start the race, a countdown timer is set for two minutes and thirty seconds (2:30). Boats must be running and on the course before the timer reaches the two-minute mark.

When the countdown ends, the race begins. The boat closest to the start line without going over is in first place. If a boat jumps the start - or is positioned to the left of the start line when the countdown ends and the race begins - it is called over by the contest director (CD) and must pass the start/finish line before it can be credited for starting the race.
 
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ggeiselman said:
This is from the District 14 Point series flyer from last year.

RTR .18 Rules

Changes you can make include:

Any paint scheme

Any Radio System

The Exhaust may be changed to any legal exhaust per noise rules.

The engine may be changed as long as it is from the same manufacturer as the boat hull and doesn’t exceed the .18 cc max. (ie. you may switch the engine in a ProBoat as long as you use a ProBoat manufactured engine. This boat comes with a ProBoat .15 and may be changed to a ProBoat .18)

In the interest of time during all RTR races the Half Mill course will be in effect. Half Mill Means you throw your boat in the water, complete one lap, then you may cut the course between the number 6 buoy and the start clock. Boats coming down the back straight have right-of-way, you may move into any lane not taken by another boat as long as you have 3 boat lengths. This will tighten up the start and give us some GREAT RACING.

This is from the Aquacraft Site:

Production Sport Hydroplane Racing Rules (Nitro Engines)

To be allowed entry, your model boat must meet all of these criteria:

* It must be intended for the R/C hobby market.

* It must be distributed to and available from hobby shops and e-commerce nationwide.

* It must be a full-body hydroplane (known in the modeling industry as "Sport Hydroplane").

* It cannot resemble outrigger hydroplanes, tunnel hulls or catamarans.

* Its engine displacement must not exceed 0.189 cubic inches.

You must race your boat only as it was designed by the manufacturer, with the following exceptions:

* You may use any radio equipment.

* You may use any glow plug.

* You may use any glow engine fuel (for example, with any nitro percentage).

* You may upgrade to any engine starting system, including changing the flywheel and cable coupler.

* You may use any propeller designed and sized for the stub shaft (but it is not legal, for example, to use 3/16" props on a 1/8" stub shaft).

* You may use any production turn fin and turn fin bracket.

* You may sharpen and polish hardware.

* You may change any silicone part, such as the fuel line or pipe coupler.

* You may paint your boat however you wish - in fact, we encourage it!

* You may scuff the paint.

Any of the following will disqualify your boat from racing:

* You cannot modify the engine.

* You cannot modify the hull or remove detail parts.

* You cannot modify the tuned exhaust system.

* You cannot add an on-board fuel mixture system.

* You cannot use hand-made parts.

* Performance-enhancing repairs are also prohibited.

If it's not mentioned here...it's not legal!

The Race Course

The course is set up as an oval, with boats racing in a clockwise direction. Its length and width, as well as the number of laps to be raced (usually six), are up to the host.

A minimum of seven buoys — six course buoys and one start line buoy — are placed in the water. The front set of buoys should be approximately 50 feet from the driver's shoreline.

Three buoys (numbers 1, 2 and 3) are arranged on the left side of the course, and three buoys are positioned on the right side (numbers 4, 5 and 6). Typically, the start buoy is placed in the center of the course. You are not allowed to "cut the course", or run inside the buoys, at any time - before, during or after the race.

To start the race, a countdown timer is set for two minutes and thirty seconds (2:30). Boats must be running and on the course before the timer reaches the two-minute mark.

When the countdown ends, the race begins. The boat closest to the start line without going over is in first place. If a boat jumps the start - or is positioned to the left of the start line when the countdown ends and the race begins - it is called over by the contest director (CD) and must pass the start/finish line before it can be credited for starting the race.
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The d-14 rules have been in effect for a couple years,they have worked well but need some more work. After the seasons last race we will poll all district clubs for what they want,my feeling is the pipe rule must go. Id say for this race lets use this RTR .18 Rules

Changes you can make include:

Any paint scheme

Any Radio System

The Exhaust may be changed to any legal exhaust per noise rules.

The engine may be changed as long as it is from the same manufacturer as the boat hull and doesn’t exceed the .18 cc max. (ie. you may switch the engine in a ProBoat as long as you use a ProBoat manufactured engine. This boat comes with a ProBoat .15 and may be changed to a ProBoat .18)

In the interest of time during all RTR races the Half Mill course will be in effect. Half Mill Means you throw your boat in the water, complete one lap, then you may cut the course between the number 6 buoy and EDIT Buoy 1 . Boats coming down the back straight have right-of-way, you may move into any lane not taken by another boat as long as you have 3 boat lengths. This will tighten up the start and give us some GREAT RACING.
 
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Thanks Mike. At this point, I have 5 Gas Cats and if one more comes, we will run it. Entry deadline is this Saturday. I must have paid entry form in hand for you to be included in this race. Data entry will be this Sunday.

Thanks,

Stu
 
Stu, drop me then from "B" 'rigger then add Eric to Gas Cat Channel 62. I'll have to see what my alternate is or drop another radio into it. This will even up the "B" hydro class then to 24.
 
Don Brown said:
Mikey

I know were there is another Gas Cat if you or Jeff want to run it.

DonB
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Jeff and I have a full plate,akready running too many boats. Plus I have told Stu I will help in any way he needs help. Maybe Rocky will jump into that ride :D :D
 

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