What is faster a JAE or a EAGLE SGX?

[Jorgen Andersson]

3. This may offend some people, but the Nats isnt the premier race anymore. Nobody from my district bothered to go. Were all going to Hobart though.

Mark Voohries

Pete Collinson

Phil Thomas

Mike Crawford

These four racers competed at the 2010 IMPBA Internats,,,And they are all from "your" district.

LOL - Sometimes it seems difficult to separate facts from just words!

Jorgen

 

[gooycheese]

Im not sure but there must have been a race down south with say 20+ B Hydro's? If Not Hobart should have that and should have a very wide variety of boats........ It should be a good benchmark for the jae boat......... plenty of top quality drivers and boats ( all talk will be left on shore)

Yes District 4 had the 4 racers listed, but what i think might have been meant was there was 8 or less B hydro and not even sure if a jae boat raced at the internats.

 

[SayMikey]

The title says it all.or nothing at all. A 20 hydro is one of the hardest boats to setup and make perform lap after lap. SO many things must fall into place for one to perform at a level we call FAST. The Jae has only been in the arena a short time so lets give them a couple years to see what they have. Will Black Birds,Black Jacks and Eagles fall to the rear,I doubt it but they will have more boaters taking a swipe at them and that is a good thing.Hydro numbers are on the mend with the coming of JAE,lets see how it all shakes out at the largest Hydro event in the country. Hobart also known as the Hydro Masters should have more hydro's of any size competing on a well built stage for all to see. East West Impba and NAMBA this race is a true test of the best of the best.Given that what if a Jae wins or dont win 20 hydro? Any hydro in the right hands could be a winner setup is the key and dont forget some racing luck,don't say racing luck dont exist it does. How many times have you missed a heat because that brand new glow plug would lite but die every time you pulled the igniter off. After Hobart there will be more to this 20 hydro story as well as a hundred more ........

 

[henry velasco]

Good post Mikey -- very good

Henry

 

[bbhawker]

I will confirm NO JAE at the nats for 2010.

 

[John Knight]

The title says it all.or nothing at all. A 20 hydro is one of the hardest boats to setup and make perform lap after lap. SO many things must fall into place for one to perform at a level we call FAST. The Jae has only been in the arena a short time so lets give them a couple years to see what they have. Will Black Birds,Black Jacks and Eagles fall to the rear,I doubt it but they will have more boaters taking a swipe at them and that is a good thing.Hydro numbers are on the mend with the coming of JAE,lets see how it all shakes out at the largest Hydro event in the country. Hobart also known as the Hydro Masters should have more hydro's of any size competing on a well built stage for all to see. East West Impba and NAMBA this race is a true test of the best of the best.Given that what if a Jae wins or dont win 20 hydro? Any hydro in the right hands could be a winner setup is the key and dont forget some racing luck,don't say racing luck dont exist it does. How many times have you missed a heat because that brand new glow plug would lite but die every time you pulled the igniter off. After Hobart there will be more to this 20 hydro story as well as a hundred more ........

To add to Mike's comments, refer to my earlier post #9 on page 1. The Fall Nationals has an excellent field in many classes, including B hydro. Some outstanding drivers and boats are entered. Coupled with Hobart, the Fall Nationals will be the best two tests remaining for the year for the hydros. Watch them close. And Mike is right about the JAE - it has been on the market only about 6 months. Give them time and a break. Over time, and I personally believe it will be very short period, they will be among the top tier boats running.

 

[Ron Jefferson]

I've been trying to contain myself from this type of thread but can't help myself.

The JAE won't be any different from any other hull on the market. In the right hands they will do fine. Problem is, there's way more to a good competitive .20 hydro than a box (please no negative meant here) of bits and pieces, no matter who designs it. The hull must be built square and true, be kept light within reason and contain the rest of the package (pipe, prop, hardware, set-up and engine combination).

The plus side of the JAE is the price and simplicity. As with most other hulls the down side will be the owner/builder.

I've seen a bunch of great boats sold that have never worked well again. I've sold a few myself where I insisted the purchaser buy the complete package from tank to prop. All it takes is one bouy hit and the boat can be junk for the new owner. I've seen it happen...

I built a JAE myself thinking I better be ready in case they turn out to be the bomb. With the declining numbers in the hydro classes in my area and the poor turnout to races, I've still yet to see one run.

So for now, I'll stick with my Nowicki boat until I get a spank'n layed on me by something a bunch better. Bring em all to Hobart. 32 "B" boats last year. Do I hear 50?

Ron

 

[Terry Keeley]

Hey Junior, saw sumpin' today that has at least a chance at spankin' yur Nowicki, yup another Nowicki...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Speed Jr.]

3. This may offend some people, but the Nats isnt the premier race anymore. Nobody from my district bothered to go. Were all going to Hobart though.

Mark Voohries

Pete Collinson

Phil Thomas

Mike Crawford

These four racers competed at the 2010 IMPBA Internats,,,And they are all from "your" district.

LOL - Sometimes it seems difficult to separate facts from just words!

Jorgen

Again, we are talking about B hydros......somehow thats funny? Mark Voorhies may have had one. So is someone going to argue with me that with only 8 20 hydro's that that race is the benchmark for whats out there? And again, no JAE's there... big deal. See you all at Hobart.

Jr.

 

[Ron Zaker Jr]

I sure wish people would not post questions like this post,there is no real answer. All it does is pit other boats and people against each other.I for one have many different design boats, and I am friends with the people who sell design and sell them.(Jags,Crapshooters,Blackbirds,SGX,Blackjack,Roadrunner,H bird,Hawks).I don't even see how the question is valid. Thanks.

 

[bbhawker]

Ron,

How true! I'm certain there are better drivers than myself but when I won b hydro last year at Hobart against yourself and Steve (the best hydro teacher)it meant a lot to me. No matter what boat anyone was driving. As one wise boater once told me you must first finish to finish first.

Brad Beckner

 

[julianconde]

I say bring the jae to SC an prove us all wrong

 

[Speed Jr.]

I say bring the jae to SC an prove us all wrong

Prove us all wrong about what?

Jr.

 

[julianconde]

In heat racing at the fall nats. I don't think there's a JAE B hydro entered and there's 15 boats.

 

[John Knight]

In heat racing at the fall nats. I don't think there's a JAE B hydro entered and there's 15 boats.

Don't bet on that at all. Go back to post #9 and reread it.

 

[Mike Larson]

Julian.... there may be as many as 2 there.... maybe not.... I havent decided on which hull i'd take yet...... are you in 20 hydro?.... the lineup has me more than a little nervous.......

Thanks Ron, for stating the obvious, and your wisdom prevailed again.....

I've been lucky and gained/had a few of the 21 hydros available..... theyre all DIFFERENT. The only constant I've ever found was the amount of time instilled into each one to achieve it's potential. Some take more time, some dont. Inherently, this is the aspect of the hobby, as i learn, that keeps me going back to the pond, tweaking, and searching each one's pinnacle.... the efforts show at each venue I go to......

There are more B hydro US 1 guys in district 4 than anywhere.....I dont have the records in hand, but the last decade sounds good..... sure, it's tough...I rarely achieve heat wins. behind the scenes, i'm looking, watching, learning, asking..... gauging where i'm at. Normally I bring the sense that i'd better work harder on my stuff for the next time, home.

The "ski" innovation along with thinner streamlined tubs and sponsons is another notch up as hydro technology continues.... we can be grateful the JAE team shared with everyone, and does, every day.

I cant tout the boat.... I'm working on mine diligently.... I'm working on, my Blackbird, too..... my Hummingbird, set up and heating well, is my race hull right now....... apples.... faster.... race em!

Hobart and the results should be interesting..... the Fall nats will be too.... any given sunday comes to mind..... it wont be about faster... it'll be mill, 6 laps, and lane 1 at the end...... hull, prop, needle and conditions..... align all them planets.....

Whatever hull, whoever's style, I can bring my best effort, and will, get the rush, and run em'. I can say, and have noticed, that the new technology ski style boats show definite promise, and the bar has risen yet a little more..... to all our gain.

Test well. Mike

 

[Speed Jr.]

Well said Mike, hope to see you soon buddy!

Jr.

 

[julianconde]

i have to agree with mike on that. Any boat can win at any given time no matter if its a Jae or a SGX.. this hobby is about fun and friendly competition.. Lets have fun

 

[Duck899]

Yes, I concur....FUN is number 1.....and for me...the JAE is alot of FUN!

 

[Norm Doerr]

"Which boat is best" can only be settled on the lake while competing against each other. We may get a real good clue at the Fall Nationals in Charleston in October. The 20/B Hydro class has Roadrunners, Eagles, Cougar, JAE, Jaguar, Hummingbird, Firefighter, and I am sure some other brands entered. It always comes down to the best boat and best driver winning the class. In 2009, it was Steve Ball in his Jaq III, and he has a new one for 2010.

I also know of at least one other JAE 67 that will be in the race too. I am sure more will appear at the race.

Yup ... I saw that on Me Time last year.. Ball won every heat he was in until the last one.