WD-40

[Don Ferrette]

A wholesaler for WD40 and other fluids that called on auto parts houses told me years ago that WD40 stood for WATER DISPLACEMENT 40%. NOW the other 60 % was and hang on to your hats MINERAL SPIRITS. HE said he would NEVER store something long term with it !!!!! After that I decided to mix MMO and air tool oil 50/50 and use it for flushing. I do use the WD 40 to spray into the cooling heads.

Regards Curt

That particular "wholesaler" was feeding you a bunch of bull. The name WD40 came from the 40th version of the formula & it's water displacing properties. If you read the can you will also see that it lubricates & protects which requires an oil base, mineral spirits offer none of those capabilities. Not to mention mineral spirits have a unique smell, which is nothing like WD40.

Also you really shouldn't use Marvel Mystery Oil as an after run, be it pure or mixed. It leaves a residual film that is not to good for your internals. One place it does work well is to dip your head bolts in when reassembling, that coating helps keep them set. Thank Rod Geraghty for that little tip years back.

 

[crrcboatz]

Don,

I have no idea where you got your expertice in the area of lubricants comes from, but I have known this man for over 10 years and I now attend his church. HE makes a living at this so I WILL trust his word first and formost. Now in case you have not checked the shelves at your local paint store lately you can buy mineral spirits in a no smell version. Finally, put some in your hands , rub it on both hands and you will feel about as much lubricant on them from the PETROLEUM base which it comes from as there is in wd 40. Also, this gentleman tells me after a phone call

call, that it is a bi product of the production of gasoline at your local refinery. I rest my case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now to MMO anyone who would trust their best motor to WD40 over MMO / tool oil will finally find out the hard way just like many people have on this site, its just a matter of time. I will take my mixture over your WD40 to the bank literally.

REGARDS Curt

 

[TimD]

Apparently WD40 and Phenolic bearing retainers don't mix. Most people use Polyamide retainers but you do see phenolic ones from time to time.

I use WD40 for flushing my water lines only. I run the engine on some methanol/castor mix to get rid of any residual nitro then flush it out with ATF.

 

[Don Ferrette]

"Now to MMO anyone who would trust their best motor to WD40 over MMO / tool oil will finally find out the hard way just like many people have on this site, its just a matter of time. I will take my mixture over your WD40 to the bank literally."

Well you can believe what you like, that's your business but my source was a FACTORY rep I met a number of years ago. This info & more can also be found on the WD40 website-

http://www.wd40.com/Brands/wd40_faqs.html

I spent over 20 years as a Master Technician & met many a wholesaler who was somewhat unknowledgeable or mis-informed about products they carried. This doesn't make them a bad person, just not 100% accurate. I also met some who were flat out liars but we won't go there. AND the only thing we are talking about here using the WD for is flushing the motor, NOT storing it. That's where the after run oil comes in & if you read my & other's previous posts again you might see that this time. Air tool oil is one of the best things you can use to blend with a non detergent oil or ATF as moisture is an air tools worst enemy. Now while your at it, go read the side of the can of Marvel Mystery oil under "characteristics" & you will see the reference to the "residue" created under internal combustion conditions right there on the can. This residue might be fine in an automotive application for which it was intended but not for a motor that sees 20K & better placed on it's bearings. So before you decide to come on here & blast me basing your information on your "expert" friend, you just might want to tell him he needs to get HIS facts straight. <_<

 

[Don Ferrette]

Some years ago, I saw a setup that used a small check valve that replaced the glow plug. The idea was to spray your after run oil into the carb and the check valve puked it all into a catch bottle when you spun the engine over. Does anybody remember this gadgit? Did it work? Does anybody still sell it?

I stock those blow plugs for anyone who would like them- $5 each.

 

[TOM MOORE]

Anyone adding Corrision X to this mix or just me?

Rodney, corrossion x is the best in my opinion. I flus my eng. with wd 40 then put the corrossion x in and leave it till next run havent had a bearing fell in i dont know when. Just my 2 cents.

Tom.

 

[bsmtboy2]

What i learned in college from a chemistry professor about WD40 was this- he told us the story of how it got its name. They basically tried 39 other formulas to make a "water dispersion" lubricant without any success. the 40th prototype worked and the called it "water dispersion #40" hence the name wd-40. This professor was so serious about his class that you thought he invented the periodic table himself!! Personally i use a mix of ATF and Valvoline Synblend spray most PEP boys carry it and it works well without the residue. B)

 

[Bob Kensill]

I always blow my engines out with WD40 and then put some Marvel Mystery Oil in for storage. I just ran 57mph with my 8 year old CMB outboard that was always done this way and it is all original inside.

 

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I spent over 20 years as a Master Technician & met many a wholesaler who was somewhat unknowledgeable or mis-informed about products they carried. This doesn't make them a bad person, just not 100% accurate. I also met some who were flat out liars but we won't go there. AND the only thing we are talking about here using the WD for is flushing the motor, NOT storing it.

Getting back to the WD-40 theory about half truths, truths and flat out liars......I sold Gallo wines for 6 years in California and was the #1 rep. Hell, I had people believing this stuff was good wine, hell you could clean your sidewalk with half their crap. Obviously, their quality has changed but the things I told people I slowly began to believe myself... :lol:

Look, everyone ahs a theory what's right and what's wrong. For about 15 years I had sprayed in WD-40, than Marvel Mystery oil and then Corrision X. Never had any problems. Now I use WD-40 and Corrision X. The other chemical your talking about for tools is something I'm definitely gonna get and try it.

Don,

Thanks for the tip on the Marvel Mystery oil to seat the bolts. I was getting tired of the mess that Loc-tight made.

 

[crrcboatz]

Don,

I am not impressed with "Master Tech" title at all when it comes to this subject. Maybe something to do with what ever master tech, but wholesalers are just like factory reps, ie THEY WANT TO SELL THEIR PRODUCT, and are just as un trustworhty as anyone else. I too have delt with FACTORY REPs over my 21 yrs as an Asst Supt for school districts. They are all the same, they promote their product.

If you want to read labels look on WD40 and you will find the words petroleom based. I think those who work at refineries such as the one here in Tulsa, know what they produce and what it is used for and who purchases it. I stand by that as strongly as you do your conviction to the contrary. Anyone selling WD40 as a lube is NOT going to tell you it has a base of mineral spirits, kind of tough on sales I would think. Those factory reps are going to tell you what will sell the product.

No one has made YOU or I specialists on this subject, were are however definately on opposite sides of the fence. That is America and thank God for that. We are equally guilty of "Blasting" and will not likely change either one's opinion, so I will not continue to make this a p---ing contest.

Regards Curt

 

[Don Ferrette]

"Hey if you cannot take a little "Blasting" as you call it don't put out your opinion for debate."

I can take all the blasting in the world but you are still incorrect as to what you said WD40 was. I even supplied you with the link on the product history. You base your whole point on something a "wholesaler" told you, then you come back & say that reps or wholesalers will say whatever to sell the product......DUH! I don't care that you're not impressed by my credentials in the field where all the aforementioned chemicals are prominently used & we relied on knowing what worked or what didn't by experience, not on what some wholesaler who went to the same church said. Hmmm, does him attending your church make his word gospel?? But I guess if this guy told you he could walk on water, you'd believe him.........

BTW- EVERY lubricating product we've mention on this thread is "petroleum based" so what's your point there??

I guess you being an "assistant school superintendent" makes you far more knowledgeable than me on these petroleum based automotive products. But I bet that WD40 works real good on those squeaky door hinges & desk drawers......... B)

Have fun on your side of the fence & keep the wet side down.

 

[Joe_Knesek]

Don,I am not impressed with "Master Tech" title at all when it comes to this subject. Maybe something to do with what ever master tech, but wholesalers are just like factory reps, ie THEY WANT TO SELL THEIR PRODUCT, and are just as un trustworhty as anyone else. I too have delt with FACTORY REPs over my 21 yrs as an Asst Supt for school districts. They are all the same, they promote their product.

If you want to read labels look on WD40 and you will find the words petroleom based. I think those who work at refineries such as the one here in Tulsa, know what they produce and what it is used for and who purchases it. I stand by that as strongly as you do your conviction to the contrary. Anyone selling WD40 as a lube is NOT going to tell you it has a base of mineral spirits, kind of tough on sales I would think. Those factory reps are going to tell you what will sell the product.

No one has made YOU or I specialists on this subject, were are however definately on opposite sides of the fence. That is America and thank God for that. We are equally guilty of "Blasting" and will not likely change either one's opinion, so I will not continue to make this a p---ing contest.

Regards Curt

Right off the web site.

What does WD-40 stand for?

WD-40 literally stands for Water Displacement, 40th attempt. That's the name straight out of the lab book used by the chemist who developed WD-40 back in 1953. The chemist, Norm Larsen, was attempting to concoct a formula to prevent corrosion—a task which is done by displacing water. Norm's persistence paid off when he perfected the formula on his 40th try

 

[Kevin Whitehead]

Looking at the MSDS data sheet on the WD-40 webpage, it contains 45-50% aliphatic petroleum distillates.

Aliphatic petroleum distillates are naphtha, not mineral spirits, although they are somewhat similar.

It also has 15-20% petroleum base oil in it. That would seem to make WD-40 in fact a "light lubicant".

It is funny how the WD webpage says that the ingredients are SECRET yet, they provide the MSDS data one page away.

KW

 

[PHM Racing]

I use a lube called THRUST it's automotive also if anybody is interested in knowing more about it let me know.

 

[TomMoorehouse]

oh boy here we go again...

 

[nitrotoys]

Well we all gave our .02 on WHAT WE USE, and different oils and what they do and dont do. Why brag or get into a pissing contest here.

take in the information and go with it.

Hell with it, have fun out there, this is for INFO not whos smarter than who.

No offence to ANYONE.

Some guys have been doing this a long time and have records, and i tend to go with what they have to say, you others can think something is wrong, or not right, but whoooooooooooooo cares. use what your using and go with it then.

Tom

 

[Danny Bull]

Top 10 uses for WD-40

#10. Handy for removing excess ear wax by using the small tube taped to the can.

#9. Can also be used to unblock sinuses in the same manner as above.

#8. It's good on old fry pans to stop your eggs from sticking. They taste like crap but it makes washing up easier later on.

#7. It doesn't hurt as much as 50% nitro in your eyes

#6. It stops your fish hooks from going rusty but also stops you from catching fish.

#5. it can be used as mace if her husband comes home early and if that doesn't work,

refer to #7

#4. It can be used as a short range flame thrower but don't try to solder with it

without welding gloves on.

#3. Great for killing flys as long as your throwing arm and your aim is good.

#2. Makes ironing easier, just don't use it on your whites.

#1. Good for ccc lea ni g your k eeyb oard. :unsure:

Cheers, Danny.

 

[Don Ferrette]

Too funny Danny! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tom's right, let's not have a pissing match, the info is there for all to read. There is a rather amusing story I'd like to share though. Years back, I had a young tech working for me who was just sinking his teeth into turning wrenches. He came off the tool truck one day sooo proud of his shiny, new top line Snap-On 1/4" air ratchet. He asked me what to use to care for it as he wanted it to last "forever" as he put it. Guess so with what a guy would spend on those Snap-On tool trucks! Anyway, I told him to stop by one of the parts places & buy some air tool oil. Well each day he would oil & clean that ratchet up after his work was done only to see him become rather disheartened a few months down the road when his ratchet wasn't working well. He came to me & said it had no power & was getting hot to hold when he used it. Well I took it apart & found an odd looking "residue" on all the internals & it was binding it up. I asked him to show me his oil & he brought over a can of Marvel Mystery oil! Well after a few cans of brake clean spray & some scrubbing, I re-assembled his ratchet, added some Marvel Air Tool oil & it worked good as new. I asked him why he bought the MMO & not the air tool oil & he said the owner of the parts place told him the MMO would work better (turns out he was out of the air tool oil <_< ) Well I gave that kid the rest of my can of MAT oil since I had another & he had no problems from that day forward. Heck as meticulous as he was about cleaning his stuff he's probably still using it today!

The point is be cautious with the Marvel Mystery oil if you choose to use it.

 

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As Jeff Spicoli said "Hey Bud, what's your problem?" :lol: :lol: :lol:

I went to a hardware store one time to get the grease you use for your automatic garage door opener. I told him what I wanted and since he ws out the Einstein insisted that regular super thick can of packing grease would do the trick, you know "all greases are the same, super slippery" against my better judgement I used it. It killed my springs because it was so thick it couldn't turn the motor. It busted the springs like thunder hitting your house.

His pop ended up picking up the tab for me of $125 to have a garage guy come fix it. I literally had to douche it with tons of degreaser chemicals to clean the tracks. The dripings made such a mess and ruined a lot of stuff in my garage. For a couple weeks I stil;l get those hiden grease droppings of blobs come from no where. That was frustrating. :angry:

 

[ClayGlover]

As Jeff Spicoli said "Hey Bud, what's your problem?" :lol: :lol: :lol:

LOL, "Mr. Haaand, huhuhuhuh, you're a D!(k "

"Don't worry, my Dad has this awesome set of tools... I can Fix it!!!"

- J. Spicoli circa 1982