Superior Engines

[boaterbill]

Hap,

try this link scorchinscooter.com they sell 6 different models, you'll have to do a little modifing to make them marine, water jacket, drive collet. Anyway check it out see if thats' what you have in mind.

 

[TomMoorehouse]

Yea.... I was thinking of putting one in a forabuck hull off ebay and naming it either "Big Splash" or "Sinner"!

 

[TomMoorehouse]

that link seems to be wrong

 

[TomMoorehouse]

this must be it

http://www.scorchinscooters.com/

 

[rhomodel]

There must be a small scooter war going on as http://www.hookupzracing.com/ has similar products for similar prices

Julius

 

[boaterbill]

Thanks Tom.

Check out the prices on the mod kits. The Superior parts interchange with the Zenoah. The chinese made a duplicate of the Zenoah and called it Superior. My concern is the quality of the materials, I don't know have not seen one up close.

 

[DJT]

If it's a copy why would you buy it?

Derek

 

[TimD]

$$$$$

 

[Mike G]

I have the new 27cc cylinder, workmanship is top notch, the chrome looks even better than Zenoahs.

 

[DJT]

Would you buy your car if it was a chineese knockoff?

 

[Mike G]

1. Zenoah doesn't make a 27cc.

2. If you bought a car in the last 20 years it has parts "knocked off" Japan.

Like Tim said, it is a $$ thing, it happens in all forms of life, we are all after the most bang for the buck! If Zenoah had a patent then Superior could not have built it.

 

[DJT]

So what you are saying is that if someone was making a copy of Tom's firefighter or Mike's villan or ninja, you would buy it if it was cheaper. Am I right?

 

[Mike G]

To be perfectly honest here, it would be a balance between $ and loyalty. If it were finacially posible for me to buy an Original than I would, but if the original was out of my price range and I could buy a knock off for a lot less, then I would think about it. I would make the desision on what I could live with.The Superior engine is a great example, the Zenoah RC 230 is about $260 and the Superior $130, for half the price I can live with a knock off. The Solo engine was the first RC engine with 4 ports, does this mean Zenoah "knocked off" them? Is it worse or better if a "knock off" gets "knocked off" a second generation?

 

[TimD]

I do believe it is unethical to knock off a product in such a fashion and of course I would take that into consideration if purchasing. I guess the big question is "what is the price for brand loyalty?"

 

[Mike G]

I wonder why we don't see Zenoah doing or saying anything about it? The whole thing with Zenoah dealers selling the Superior engines seems a bit strange to me. After all if one of my retailers were selling the competitions product I would want to know why.

 

[DJT]

Would you buy the CD player stolen out of your neighbors car? How mad would you be if he payed 20 bucks for yours? Plain and simple, theft is theft.

 

[TimD]

Do you buy propellors / batteries / fuel / driveshafts /pipes etc. based on your statements in the last post?

 

[Mike G]

I hope that CD player is a philips, otherwise it is a copy!

 

[TimD]

I am not condoning copying whatsoever so please don't missinterpret my comments. I just re-read them and could see that it would be possible.

However I will say this - I use the Russian Built Kalistratov engines that have an amazing similarity to some of the Rossi's - to the point where parts are interchangable. Would I consider Rossi's because they are cheaper - no I would not. I buy the K motors because I feel they are superior in terms of machining and casting. Do I feel like I've bought something stolen - no way!

 

[boaterbill]

Hey guys,

Just had some guy e mail me with these links http://www.adaracing.com best prices for parts he has found. http://davesmotors.com Also, quote, "All parts are interchangeable except that if you use a Superior piston in a Zenoah or, vice versa, you also have to use the pin bearing and washer set to match the piston you are using."