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I did just that compare my district votes to others. I just checked signed up members as of March and my district has over 50,twice as many as 6 weeks ago. Vote during the summer months so cds and dd can talk about important votes at races.
 
Lots of arm chair quarterbacks on here. It's always REAL EASY to sit back and say what other people should do. <_<
In other words......be quiet???? I don't get it. I thought that this was a discussion of ideas, not a bashing contest.
 
How difficult is it for a DD to send out an e-mail once a month with District activities/business and any action items LIKE UPCOMMING IMPBA votes?
 
I did just that compare my district votes to others. I just checked signed up members as of March and my district has over 50,twice as many as 6 weeks ago. Vote during the summer months so cds and dd can talk about important votes at races.
Thats what I said! !! Kinda like a tool box topic or safety meeting before work!
 
Lots of arm chair quarterbacks on here. It's always REAL EASY to sit back and say what other people should do. <_<
Not cool Don! :(

I give a SIMPLE solution and get called an ''arm chair quarterback''? Was I the same arm chair QB when I took it upon myself to e-mail and phone the majority or my fellow IMPBA members in D1 asking them to exercise their right to vote?

Go deeeeeeep Don ... I promise to throw the ball from my arm chair. :)
 
Simple solution ...

Have the District Directors send out an e-mail to all IMPBA members (in good standing) in his/her district showing them what rules are up for a vote and ask for a reply.

Unless it is made EASY we will never have a good turn out.

A few years ago, I along with a few other concerned District 1 members, gave a little push to others asking them to exercise their right to vote for a Director. I think the turn out was over 40% which is unheard of in IMPBA.

Make it easy and you will get the numbers.
Right now the office can't even get a few of the District Directors to write a quarterly article promoting the events in their Districts or members that have done well in IMPBA races outside their districts even something for the District they are are supposed to represent and now you expect them to actually write a monthy e-mail? :wacko:
 
Lots of arm chair quarterbacks on here. It's always REAL EASY to sit back and say what other people should do. <_<
Not cool Don! :(

I give a SIMPLE solution and get called an ''arm chair quarterback''? Was I the same arm chair QB when I took it upon myself to e-mail and phone the majority or my fellow IMPBA members in D1 asking them to exercise their right to vote?

Go deeeeeeep Don ... I promise to throw the ball from my arm chair. :)
Not cool? I'll tell you what's not cool, it's how people wait until AFTER something happens that they don't like then get on the public forum and *****. That is the ONLY reason this thread has started and everyone on here knows it so let's not sugar coat this. All this stuff about what the board should or should not do, how the DD's should call or e-mail all their members about stuff, on and on and on. Some of you acting like it's all done in secret or something, well it's all been out there in the open people just need to take the time to read the Roostertails and if they feel so inclined to vote. Is it the DD's responsibility to get members to vote? NO IT'S NOT!! Sorry folks but the responsibility falls on YOU to vote, if you have a problem voting then YOU need to contact your DD, the IMPBA secretary or even the webmaster to help YOU out. You are all adults here and certainly capable of sending an email or making a phone call if you need help. Why should it be the DD responsibility to chase down the votes every time there is a proposal?? I mean gee we already get paid so much for what we do right? Sorry Randy if I hit a nerve as I know you're a good guy but this goes on every time something happens that some people don't like and this time hit a bigger nerve with me and honestly it's getting old. Maybe it's time to let somone else wear the shoes, this isn't much fun anymore................
 
Bill's right.

I actually e-mailed our votes last Friday to our DD and also asked about this very thing (i.e. District contacts for e-mail) AND when a good time to call would be so we could discuss any district activities....I'm still waiting on a reply. Silly me to think a DD would take interest in the district/members or organization and promotion of the hobby to foster new members and activities....OH WAIT that IS what they are supposed to do per the IMPBA By-Laws........

How's that for some armchair quarterbacking?
 
Don is correct on a couple points. It is a huge responsibility to be a National Officer or District Director of a Non Profit Organization. It is also a thankless job. However, the people who volunteered to serve the membership did just that.... they volunteered top serve. Yes, the pay is really low, but the rewards are great (speaking from personal experience). I was the one that started the thread, so I guess this was directed at me. I can handle that, as I was trying to help solve some really serious problems in the organization, NOT start a general complaint department. There have been some really good suggestions, starting with Randy's suggestion about the emailing of the District Directors members. One question..... Do the District Directors have a current email list of their members provided by the Executive Secretary or whomever? If not, there should be. I would think that any District Director or National Officer would greatly appreciate helpful suggestions from THEIR membership. It is really easy to just say that people are starting to complain because of some happening or new rule. When people get kind of tired of changes that are not well thought out, what better time to ask questions and suggest solutions? If your "fun meter is full" maybe it is time to step away. We all have to do that often, in all aspects of life. I personally had to do that years ago with the service to the membership as a BOD member. C'mon lets make this a productive discussion .... How about it? Can a current membership list of District Membership be sent out to the District Directors or not? Wouldn't you District Directors wish for such a list to make your job easier and much more effective? As stated previously, "I Bleed IMPBA" and wish for the day when Florida comes back to IMPBA or becomes a dual membership state.
 
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I'm just kinda sitting back and taking all of this in...

I too have some comments on some aspects of IMPBA,,, but will not voice them here.

I guess I can consider myself lucky, to be in a district that now has,,, and had in the recent past, directors that ARE active in the district and interact with the members.

Rick Bearden, from my short time in the district did a great job...

And I know I shouldn't say this publicly but Doug Smock-a-telli is doing am awesome job...

So, my question for folks like Joe Warren and Buckshot,,, if you have director's that have been assigned, or appointed to your districts, and your less than thrilled with there results,, why not step up and take on the jobs yourself.

Your both very active in the racing community, and well respected.... take on the jobs yourself.
 
I was informed today by our President that nominations for D-7 director need to be into the IMPBA office by July 31 of this year for election.

I will pass the word on to as many D-7 members as I can find about the election.....
 
Simple solution ...

Have the District Directors send out an e-mail to all IMPBA members (in good standing) in his/her district showing them what rules are up for a vote and ask for a reply.

Unless it is made EASY we will never have a good turn out.

A few years ago, I along with a few other concerned District 1 members, gave a little push to others asking them to exercise their right to vote for a Director. I think the turn out was over 40% which is unheard of in IMPBA.

Make it easy and you will get the numbers.
Right now the office can't even get a few of the District Directors to write a quarterly article promoting the events in their Districts or members that have done well in IMPBA races outside their districts even something for the District they are are supposed to represent and now you expect them to actually write a monthy e-mail? :wacko:
Why not Bill? Perhaps there needs to be a new set of expectations written in the by-laws of what the DD's responsibilities are. If the DD is not doing their duties it is then the Executive Board's responsibility to make sure the DD's are doing what is expected of them. It's a simple e-mail telling members what rule changes are up for vote and ask them to reply directly. If a DD can't take 15 minutes to inform their members of rule changes up for vote then they are not very good DDs.

We are very fortunate in D1 having Luc White as our DD and Tim Kish as our Assistant DD. They are the BEST thing that has happened to our district in a long time. We have gone from a District of 126 members in 2010 to 172 in 2012 and this year we will be close to 200 members. This shows what CAN be done if you have directors who care.

Don. I hear ya buddy. You can vent all you want but also be open for suggestions on how to possibly improve things or solve problems. Sitting back (in an arm chair) and having a ''that's just the way it is'' attitude helps no one.
 
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I'm just kinda sitting back and taking all of this in...

I too have some comments on some aspects of IMPBA,,, but will not voice them here.

I guess I can consider myself lucky, to be in a district that now has,,, and had in the recent past, directors that ARE active in the district and interact with the members.

Rick Bearden, from my short time in the district did a great job...

And I know I shouldn't say this publicly but Doug Smock-a-telli is doing am awesome job...

So, my question for folks like Joe Warren and Buckshot,,, if you have director's that have been assigned, or appointed to your districts, and your less than thrilled with there results,, why not step up and take on the jobs yourself.

Your both very active in the racing community, and well respected.... take on the jobs yourself.
Rick I did not say we did not have a Good Director........ Paul does a Good job for IMPBA Dist 5 But it is Hard to get the majority of the district wants, needs, input on votes & topics when they dont know the directors position on the topic ????????? Dist 5 has had close to 200 members. We dont need 5 - 6 people secretly voting in the off season on whats best for the entire dist....... I Remember A good friend we wanted to be president of the jax tn club one year Richard Johnsey. He wanted the Majority of the club vote.. to know they were behind him it his Quest to lead the club to a higher level........ It did not go his way, the other candidate won by One Vote out of 25 club members......6 months later that guy quit and the club does not exist today..... 51 percent may win the vote..... But if the other 49 percent that are against and adamant about it ... you will have trouble every time..... Dist 5 has several Good Boaters that could serve as Our Dist Director that are very active in Nitro and Gas Boating....... We would just like to vote as a District.... .
 
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Guess I'll stick my neck into the frey..............there should be admin pages on the IMPBA web site specifically addressing all aspects such as elections, rule proposals, voting, etc with maybe admin rights for DDs for their specific needs and elections and/or voting. Simply publishing it in the Roostertail and telling everyone to go out and look doesn't get it..........obviously.

I'm sure there's room to consolidate things on the site to make room for these pages. If we have to we can make it member's only? This info needs to be in one orgainzed easily accessable location.

There definately needs to be a more defined and detailed path to accomplish the administration of the rule book and it's changes. The formation of contest boards for the three distinct cateories would be a big help to eliminate the stepping on toes problem. I know this would require more volunteers in the system but would go along way to eliminate the "after the fact" frustration shown on this thread.

I'd be willing to head up a group to explore the possibilities of re-writing the rule book procedures. Anyone interested in sitting on that hot plate let me know

gh
 
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Contact your directors and let them know your concern and get you an answer. Joe as far know elections in D5 there were no other canidates that got their nominations in according to the rulebook. So it's either no representation or appointment of someone that "Stepped up and volunteered". Kind of hard to have an election with one canidate isn't it?
What about before Paul...... Bill? That was another Train Wreck for Dist #5.. We are a large Dist with Nitro, Gas & Electric Interest. Time to put the Dist Director Postiton Back Up for the Dist #5 to Vote ON!!!!!!! I would like to talk about this somemore... Maybe we can do that soon!! Tired of this Bag Over the Head ..... Punch in the Shorts Crap!!!!!!! :huh:
 
Guess I'll stick my neck into the frey..............there should be admin pages on the IMPBA web site specifically addressing all aspects such as elections, rule proposals, voting, etc with maybe admin rights for DDs for their specific needs and elections and/or voting. Simply publishing it in the Roostertail and telling everyone to go out and look doesn't get it..........obviously.

I'm sure there's room to consolidate things on the site to make room for these pages. If we have to we can make it member's only? This info needs to be in one orgainzed easily accessable location.

There definately needs to be a more defined and detailed path to accomplish the administration of the rule book and it's changes. The formation of contest boards for the three distinct cateories would be a big help to eliminate the stepping on toes problem. I know this would require more volunteers in the system but would go along way to eliminate the "after the fact" frustration shown on this thread.

I'd be willing to head up a group to explore the possibilities of re-writing the rule book procedures. Anyone interested in sitting on that hot plate let me know

gh
Greg I will set on the hot plate with you. And you are right on things that need to be lined out on the website. I seem to have get my password fixed every year so that I can vote and pay my dues. I do not know why we even have passwords on the site. If new or renewing your membership all you should have to do is go the form and feel it out with out loging on to the site. Check the box new or renewing member. And to vote all you should have to do is enter your IMPBA number and vote. You do not have to let the website do your work for you by having to log on and you can only do this it your a member so that it know if your a member or not. This also sets up a thought of how many good votes there were that never got counted.

I know that our Director is only one person and he has concerns about some of the other board members pushing what they want and think and don't even know what their District thinks. This causes a lot of behind the curtain things going on and I have been watching this for a few years. I guess it is like we have to pass things to see what is in them.
 
Guys I understand your concerns. I don't know why we can't get guys to vote. Most issues are out there for a year before being voted on by the membership. We have made it pretty easy for guys to vote. You can vote online If you are CURRANT and REGISTERED on the site. You can e-mail your DD or you can snail mail your votes in. It has shown in the past that it doesn't matter what time of year that ballots are out, guys just won't take the little time to read proposals and vote. It is very frustrating for the board to do a lot of work trying to better the organization and then seeing only a handfull of members vote. Maybe sending e-mails to active members will help. I will have John Equi send an active member list to all District Directors so they can send out when issues are up for vote. We will give that a try. The missing board meeting minutes will be posted soon. Thanks to all that have tried to come up with a solution to the low voter turnout. As I said it is frustrating to the board to see the low vote count.

Chris Rupley

IMPBA President
 
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