First time boat, but I want something fast.

[Ron Olson]

Let me know how the Lithium grease works. I recently bought a spray can of it for the squeaky door hinges on my Chebby and thought that it couldn't hurt to shoot some up though the strut and stuffing tube. We have some spray graphite at work that I'd like to get my fingers on. It is sticky when applied but is super slippery plus waterproof and works in high temps.

 

[jasoncsc]

Hi Shane,

I am a die hard helicopter guy. Back about 4 months ago, I was in your shoes, looking for a boat that runs fast so that I could escape from the basking under deadly heat of summer here. So after 4 months of shopping spree, here I am with these boats in order of purchase:

Kyosho Airstreak EP

Graupner Shockwave EP

ABC Eagle GP

Kyosho Airstreak GP

Kyosho Bluestreak GP

ABC Fast Lady GP

Seducer 21 with OS

Microburst 21 with Novarossi

Delta Force with CMB 21 geardrive

As you can see from the boat list, at first I want to get a EP, thinking they are more trouble free and do not need to fetch a deadboat on the mid of a pond. AM I WRONG! I started off with EP boats, but after spending money on batteries and ESC I thought engine boat is not that troublesome and expensive. (Imagine waiting for your boat to charge while your friends with GP boats ran 4 rounds already...) Then, I went the route of 15 GP ABS hulls, but I found them to be slow. Not until I have the ABS Fast Lady (ABS tunnel hull like the Topspeed) then I started to wear a wide grin- 21 engine power with great speed, but still the handling of the FastLady on rough water still left much to be desired because even little ripples on the pond would make the boat flip over on turns, and even though guys here have been very helpful to give me tips to set it up still I have to go fetch the flipped Fastlady about once in every 3 runs. Then, I went to a Seducer, a FRP inboard hull with an OS21, while in straight it is not as fast as the FastLady, but it handles great on rough waters. I do not have to worry about the waves when I am rallying around with my friends' boats. Then, the Microburst give me even better handling and speed with the Novarossi. Then the Delta Force with gearbox.... Now, everytime when I go to the pond, I only bring either one of the Seducer or the Microburst with the Delta Force and rally around with pond with wide grin everytime. Those ABS boats stay in my house gathering dust all the time.... If I could turn back time, I would have bought either the Seducer or the Microburst the first time, while they cost more compare to those ABS "easy kits", they handles better and give me the speed I want.

My 0.2 cent...

 

[MarkScott]

Is 16% oil enough for this engine? The book says 18%, but my LHS said this is the stuff to use. Do I need to grease the cable before running the boat or is it greased from the factory?

I'd stick with what the manufactur states.. Believe most boaters go with 18% and add an ounce of good Castor Oil.

As for greas'n, depends on what ya use.. I've used a 50/50 split of 90 gear lube with STP Oil Treatment.. I oil the lower end every time the boat was ran. With the white grease, might do it every other time. This is each time the boat has ran a tank of fuel..

Ron, I'll let ya know...

Mark..

OB Nut Racing..

 

[topfuel443]

Shane, if you have the O.S. outboard, You should not have to grease the shaft as long as you run the stock muffler setup. It has a self lubricating feature that use the exhaust oil as a lube. Im sure you will get different opinions on this system, but it worked flawlessly for me. I ran the same flex shaft using that system for over a year, then I changed to a tuned pipe, and started taking the cable out after every run to grease it. Still using the same flex shaft for another year and a half with no problems. I probably ran 18 - 20 gallons through that motor with no problems whatsoever. Just sold it a few months ago to a club member, and its still running strong. You wont be disapointed with the reliability of this engine!

What brand and percent nitro fuel did you buy? I used to run 50% redmax in mine and then switched to 60% redmax. It loves the high nitro. Remember to flush the engine after EVERY day at the pond. It will payoff in the long run.

What type of paint are you using to do the hull with? its going to have to be some good stuff to stand up to the fuel. Most guys use an automotive two part paint (something with a hardener)

~ James

P.S. with the stock muffler that engine/boat loves a Octura 437/3 prop!

 

[Shane]

The fuel they sold me is 25% nitro, and 16% oil. It's supposedly the best stuff on the market. Should I add castor oil to the fuel?

I am using lusterkote clear for the final coat of paint. It says its fuel proof right on the can.

Can anyone tell me where I am supposed to hook up the second outlet on the fuel tank? I have one line going to the carb, and then there is an extra outlet that is not being used. ???

 

[Ron Olson]

On the GP tank, run the lower one to the carb and the upper one to the fuel pressure fitting on the muffler. Fuel the tank through the carb line.

 

[Shane2]

Where is the pressure fitting on the muffler? There is one line that goes from the crankcase to the muffler, and then another line that goes from the muffler to the shaft housing.

 

[Shane2]

Wow good thing it wasnt a snake or it woulda bit me. I swear I looked.....no really I did.

Thanks for all the help guys! This forum rocks!

 

[topfuel443]

Shane here is a pic of the engine. The bottom of the muffler has on nipple that goes to the bottom of the "lower end" to grease the PTO. the muffler also has two other nipples, one goes to the top of the lower end to grease the shaft and the other nipple (The one that is shown in the pic)goes to the fuel tank for pressure.

what brand of 25% fuel is it? byrons? redmax? etc.etc.

25% will work just fine for now, but when you want to go alittle faster just bump up the nitro content to 40 or 50 %

I have always run 18%oil in my fuel, but I know of people running alot less. It will not hurt to add an ounce or 2 of caster.

sorry the pic is so big!!!

 

[topfuel443]

pic

 

[topfuel443]

well, I had a nice description caption on the picture, but could figure out how to save it as a .jpg file instead of a bitmap from paintshop pro. Any how I think you found the answer you were looking for. Shane you should go ahaed and register.......... now that you are hooked on boating. Trust me you will be hooked on boating ;D

 

[Propjockey]

Shane...I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but read step #5 on the back of the Lustrekote can.

"fuelproof to 15%"

High nitro fuels WILL affect the paint if not cleaned up.

Go ahead, ask me how I know. LOL!

I've used alot of Lustrekote and have discovered a couple things...

PREP, PREP, PREP!!!

When you are completely ready to paint, wash your hands good (I use surgical gloves to paint).

Then wipe the whole boat down with alcohol...then wipe it again!

The least amount of oil or grease (like what is naturally on your hands) will make the paint "fisheye".

Step #4 says "Hold the can about 12 inches from the surface being painted..."

Try 20 - 24 inches. The can's nozzle dumps alot of paint, and it's THIN!

At 12 inches, I can almost guarantee it will run.

Also, don't spray Lustrekote over another paint without testing on a scrap.

Lustrekote is lacquer based and will lift 90% of other spraypaints on the market...even other lacquers!

A couple extra steps will help insure a nice finish. There's few things more

frustrating than having to sand off a fresh paint job! >

Hope this helps.

 

[Shane2]

Thanks for all the tips. The boat is on it's third coat of Pactra paint, then the clear goes on tonight. I already tested for compatibility. I am a decent painter, and I am using products I used to use on my cars. I will post pics when done. I think I will put something under the fuel tank to help absorb any spills. I can't wait to get this sucker in the water!

I tried registering, but everytime it gave me an error message. I posted about it so hopefully I will get it squared away.

 

[topfuel443]

Shane is your last name Flowers?

The forum says that the newest member is Shane Flowers I assumed that was you....... If it is then you are already registered. ~ james

 

[Shane2]

Right, but before that it also registered Shane, hence the Shane2. It keeps giving me error messages but my names and email addresses keep getting accepted. When I try to log on, it tells me I dont have the right password. So then I do the forgot password with my email address or my username and it gives me "couldnt get email response codes"

 

[wswatzell]

Shane, do you have cookies enabled in the browser you are using, you need to do that in order to log in. that might be why you are getting that error message. It can't find the cookie it needs on your system.

 

[Shane2]

Yep cookies enabled. I belong to 4 other forums, and I have never had this problem.

 

[nitrotoys]

to add about paint prep,

after wiping it down 2 times with alochol, do it again.

and you may want to clear coat it also.

but let me tell you, 40% will eat that so fast, and once in water will wash it off.

and when painting, stick with all the same brands, dont switch, causes problems. course thats what i have heard ;D ;D ;D

NT