Electric power sport hydros

[P THOMAS]

OK IF I would get into building a sport hydro what would be a good size to race with?

What racing is there in the midwest area?

There are some new rule proposals out there considering size. What will be the power and size hull that most will race?

Just let me know what you want to see built.

PHIL THOMAS

 

[jfruge]

OK IF I would get into building a sport hydro what would be a good size to race with? What racing is there in the midwest area?

There are some new rule proposals out there considering size. What will be the power and size hull that most will race?

Just let me know what you want to see built.

PHIL THOMAS

phil, a 33 3/4" version of you Sprot 21 hull with a FE frendly hatch would be awsome! That should fit the new Rule for the P / E2 class!

That is my take and I am sure there will be others that reply to this post!

BTW I am about to run the FE powered 1/8th Shovel I got from you!

Thanks,

John Fruge

Madera, CA

 

[P THOMAS]

OK IF I would get into building a sport hydro what would be a good size to race with? What racing is there in the midwest area?

There are some new rule proposals out there considering size. What will be the power and size hull that most will race?

Just let me know what you want to see built.

PHIL THOMAS

phil, a 33 3/4" version of you Sprot 21 hull with a FE frendly hatch would be awsome! That should fit the new Rule for the P / E2 class!

That is my take and I am sure there will be others that reply to this post!

BTW I am about to run the FE powered 1/8th Shovel I got from you!

Thanks,

John Fruge

Madera, CA

I all ready have a sport 20 hull it is 29 3/4" long

Why would you need 33 3/4" hull?? Is it some sort of scale like 1/10 scale of a 28 foot unlimited?

What is the size range for this p/e2 class?

thanks PHIL

 

[jfruge]

OK IF I would get into building a sport hydro what would be a good size to race with? What racing is there in the midwest area?

There are some new rule proposals out there considering size. What will be the power and size hull that most will race?

Just let me know what you want to see built.

PHIL THOMAS

phil, a 33 3/4" version of you Sprot 21 hull with a FE frendly hatch would be awsome! That should fit the new Rule for the P / E2 class!

That is my take and I am sure there will be others that reply to this post!

BTW I am about to run the FE powered 1/8th Shovel I got from you!

Thanks,

John Fruge

Madera, CA

I all ready have a sport 20 hull it is 29 3/4" long

Why would you need 33 3/4" hull?? Is it some sort of scale like 1/10 scale of a 28 foot unlimited?

What is the size range for this p/e2 class?

thanks PHIL

34" is the max size in the new E2 class rules.. With the power we have now the biger the hull the better.

Lets see what others think.

JF

 

[jimi911]

If you build a good 27" and 34" hull for E1 and E2 respectively you should do well with the IMPBA members. Thats if the rules stick. Right now they are running those limits as a trial for 2008. We ran them in out Toronto club this year, and they were good so they should stick around but who knows!

Right now ... what we are missing the most is a good 27" Sport for E1 (N2 or 7.4v lipo) class.

 

[T Nissen]

I would like to see a smaller version in the 26.5"-27" length. N2/E1 is about the most popular class now but there are no currently produced Sport Hulls in this range that don't have to be scaled from a wood kit. I know it would be a huge hit!

 

[jfruge]

If you build a good 27" and 34" hull for E1 and E2 respectively you should do well with the IMPBA members. Thats if the rules stick. Right now they are running those limits as a trial for 2008. We ran them in out Toronto club this year, and they were good so they should stick around but who knows!
Right now ... what we are missing the most is a good 27" Sport for E1 (N2 or 7.4v lipo) class.

I think Jimi911 has the right idea. We need 27" and a 34" FE friendly tape hatch water proof sport hydro hulls.

Namba is also looking @ the same Max Hull Limits and they should be votes on for the 2008 racing season. I know many Namba FE races and clubs that have started using these new limits now.

Thanks,

John Fruge

 

[TRUCKPULL]

27" is the MAX in E1 Sport Hydro so a hull 26 3/4" or 26 7/8" would be verry good.

Speeds in E1 Sport are just over 50MPH.

34" Max in E2 Sport Hydro. I am now using a 30" hull that works very well.

A 33" hull may be better with the power we have available in this class.

Speeds in E2 Sport are about 65MPH.

Larry

 

[T Nissen]

...27" is the MAX in E1 Sport Hydro so a hull 26 3/4" or 26 7/8" would be verry good...

Good catch Larry, 26 7/8" MAX! We don't want to stir that pot again.

 

[Dan Chase]

OK IF I would get into building a sport hydro what would be a good size to race with? What racing is there in the midwest area?

There are some new rule proposals out there considering size. What will be the power and size hull that most will race?

Just let me know what you want to see built.

PHIL THOMAS

Phil, you might want to wait until these rules are actually voted in before starting on a new hull. IMPBA has said 2009 would be the earliest and so far I have not seen a NAMBA proposal for the length limits, so it might be premature to build a mold around those sizes.

 

[TRUCKPULL]

Dan

These new rules have already been adopted by the IMPBA clubs for

Elelectric racing. All IMPBA races in 2008 will be run under these rules.

Why would you see a NAMBA proposal before it is sent in??

You have been bucking these ideas on all the other fourms since the start.

The four major NAMBA clubs have already voted to run these rules as

club rules, in preparation for the change in NAMBA.

It is coming even if you don’t like it.

I think it is a great idea that PHIL is stepping up to the plate and asking

what the racers want.

Thumbs UP to PHIL T.

Larry

 

[jfruge]

Dan
These new rules have already been adopted by the IMPBA clubs for

Elelectric racing. All IMPBA races in 2008 will be run under these rules.

Why would you see a NAMBA proposal before it is sent in??

You have been bucking these ideas on all the other fourms since the start.

The four major NAMBA clubs have already voted to run these rules as

club rules, in preparation for the change in NAMBA.

It is coming even if you don’t like it.

I think it is a great idea that PHIL is stepping up to the plate and asking

what the racers want.

Thumbs UP to PHIL T.

Larry

Great Reply Larry. I fully agree.

John Fruge

Madera, CA

 

[Dan Chase]

How many people are left in the four major NAMBA electric clubs, Larry?

I just thought Phil should know that the length rules are JUST a proposal... if that.

 

[TRUCKPULL]

How many people are left in the four major NAMBA electric clubs, Larry?
I just thought Phil should know that the length rules are JUST a proposal... if that.

Dan - You must have a real problem,

Your own club is going by the new rules.

It is your club is it not?? OH - I see you only get one vote.

See the NAT's advertisement on this froum.

Now get with the program, Dan this is your club.

Larry

 

[jfruge]

How many people are left in the four major NAMBA electric clubs, Larry?
I just thought Phil should know that the length rules are JUST a proposal... if that.

Dan, as far as I know these 3 Western clubs

Devil Mountain Water Boilers, NAMBA Dist. 9 CA

Puget Sound Fast Electric Model Boat Club WA

Mesa Model Yacht Club, Mesa Arizona Mesa Az

all plan to run the new proposed rule set for there 2008 races.

Just an FYI,

and please correct me if I am wrong.

John Fruge

 

[TRUCKPULL]

John

Don't forget the MI. WI. and OH. clubs

Also Canada.

Larry

 

[P THOMAS]

27" is the MAX in E1 Sport Hydro so a hull 26 3/4" or 26 7/8" would be verry good.Speeds in E1 Sport are just over 50MPH.

34" Max in E2 Sport Hydro. I am now using a 30" hull that works very well.

A 33" hull may be better with the power we have available in this class.

Speeds in E2 Sport are about 65MPH.

Larry

Thanks That is what I need to know

Sounds like these sizes will work for both IMPBA and NAMBA, is that correct?

So if these size work, for these Namba classes what IMPBA class match?

The problem with the electric that is confusing is there are class hull sizes but no good way to determine power size or engine size.

The nitro racing has always been basically .20 .40 .60 .90 size motors. boats were built to best handle the power.

the nitro sport boats run .20 motors in a 30 inch boat .40 in a 36 inch boat and .67 in the 43 inch boat. .90-.100 a bit larger hull can be used maybe up to 50 inches. Then there are the gas Zenoah boats that are larger size hulls

Im sure there can be a way to class electric power setups but I dont understand the motors enough to figure that one out.

Is there a method to class a motor as a E1 or E2 or is the power cell the determining factor?

So how do the electric boats go about building a boat for a certain class?

Do you guys pick the size of the boat put in the biggest motor it will handle and power it to the max?

I know there are power rules according to volt output of the pack. Is the motor type a factor?

Hope you can clear up my questions Im sure it is not as hard as it appears. :blink:

 

[TRUCKPULL]

Phil

IMPBA has the length limits in place now.

NAMBA is working on it at this time.

The E2 (P) class is a Sport 20 or 21, the electrics are faster then the Sport 20's. therefore

require a bit longer length.

The power is set in Max Voltage per class, any motor.

The idea of length limits is, you can only put so much power into a max length hull, and be

able to finish races.

We have been doind this with length limits for two years, and it works.

I have been running a 30" Sport Hydro in E2 class at about 62MPH.

1Min. 30Sec. for a 1 mile run on a 1/6 mile coarse. ( faster then Sport 20)

The E1 (N2) class runs about 50MPH.

Larry

 

[raptor347]

How many people are left in the four major NAMBA electric clubs, Larry?

32 in ours.

 

[Dan Chase]

Dan - You must have a real problem,
Your own club is going by the new rules.

It is your club is it not?? OH - I see you only get one vote.

See the NAT's advertisement on this froum.

Now get with the program, Dan this is your club.

Larry

Was my club Larry, you get with the program. It's not my club anymore, I only started it. Most of my club left when the LiPo rule passed. They are all out racing R/C cars, MX, Karts and flying R/C airplanes now. Now you have only two experienced racers left in the club and only Randy has any experience running a race.

So how many racers are left in the 3 major clubs?

The "West Coast" clubs?!? Brian says 31 in Washington, How many are left in the DMWB? 3? 4? How about Mesa, when I was there in February, they had maybe 4 or 5 members racing.

Who are these "major" clubs now anyway?

Is it really the NAMBA Nats if they don't run by NAMBA rules? So much for every vote counts in NAMBA! **** the Torpedoes, Full Steam Ahead! :unsure: