arcadian

[NAMBA860]

I'm thinking of drawing the Arcadia up for FE 8thScale, however the hull design would need to be symetrically reversed for clockwise running. I would be an excellent hull for CG battery placement. The large canard and aft surface aero ramp up should keep her glued down in the straights. I'm assumming it ran a turn fin on the inside sponson side, anyone? I would be nice to have a bottom pic also.

let me know if you build one i would be interested but for nitro

 

[rbeyer]

The Texmo was actually purchased by the Hydroplane Museum a few years ago. From what I recall, they wanted the trailer more than the boat. Not sure what happened to it.

Here are some pics that I was given. I also have an electronic copy of a press guide. Everything you would ever want to know about the Texmo project. PM me if you want a copy.

Rick

 

[rbeyer]

Here is another picture of the Aronow.

 

[Glenn Gates]

Here is another picture of the Aronow.

I don't mean to hijack this thread but I saw a similar boat sponsored by Merc. marine at the Sacramento Cup around 1968-it had multiple power heads and did not qualify for the race. It was red or orange in color-Anyone remember this boat? Thanks', Glenn

 

[Smirnoff]

It was not an Unlimited.....Sacramento was not a stop for the Unlimiteds in 1968 :blink:

 

[Glenn Gates]

It was not an Unlimited.....Sacramento was not a stop for the Unlimiteds in 1968 :blink:

MY mistake, It was 1967. Glenn

 

[Flyguy55]

I raced tunnel boats from 70 to 78. I won a couple National Championships in the late 70s in Mod U and Mod 120..

I knew Jim Hauenstein , His brother was , as I remember , a head engineer at Mercury Racing Div.I saw him at the Lake Mead race working on the Arcadian. He invited me up to look it over. I spent a several hours with him. The boat was a tail dragger ( not a conventional 3 point), built by one of the top pro outboard hydro builders. It was built to run on the back of the boat and just float the front sponsons except in the turns.

It had a straight drive shaft running through the center of the hull. 8 outboard power heads each driving the drive shaft through a tooth belt( no gearboxes when I saw it run), 4 on each side . It only had 6 engines running when I saw it. It had blown several spare power heads. A belt would break , the engine rpm would rise till the engine blew with no load . I don't remember Jim driving , not sure he was licensed to drive an Unlimites . But that was 30 yrs ago.

Jim said the hull ran pretty good in flat water when all the engines were running but didn't like the race water with other unlimiteds on the course .

It ran more like a flat bottom then a Hydro. rough ride

I also saw the Texmo run at the Clear Lake TX race. I cant remember the drivers name now ( senior moment ), but I knew him and raced against him also. He invited me over to look the boat over.

The Texmo was Triple outboard powered with 3 big offshore outboards , and every time I saw it run , it came in with one or two of the lower unites broken off from the side loads in the turns. It was just a big outboard Tunnel Boat

I went there to see the turbines run.

BTW , I was at the Sacramento Race at Fulsom Lake also . Mira Slovack won that race . Was he driving Wahoo ?

Dick Roberts

Albuquerque NM

 

[Glenn Gates]

I raced tunnel boats from 70 to 78. I won a couple National Championships in the late 70s in Mod U and Mod 120..I knew Jim Hauenstein , His brother was , as I remember , a head engineer at Mercury Racing Div.I saw him at the Lake Mead race working on the Arcadian. He invited me up to look it over. I spent a several hours with him. The boat was a tail dragger ( not a conventional 3 point), built by one of the top pro outboard hydro builders. It was built to run on the back of the boat and just float the front sponsons except in the turns.

It had a straight drive shaft running through the center of the hull. 8 outboard power heads each driving the drive shaft through a tooth belt( no gearboxes when I saw it run), 4 on each side . It only had 6 engines running when I saw it. It had blown several spare power heads. A belt would break , the engine rpm would rise till the engine blew with no load . I don't remember Jim driving , not sure he was licensed to drive an Unlimites . But that was 30 yrs ago.

Jim said the hull ran pretty good in flat water when all the engines were running but didn't like the race water with other unlimiteds on the course .

It ran more like a flat bottom then a Hydro. rough ride

I also saw the Texmo run at the Clear Lake TX race. I cant remember the drivers name now ( senior moment ), but I knew him and raced against him also. He invited me over to look the boat over.

The Texmo was Triple outboard powered with 3 big offshore outboards , and every time I saw it run , it came in with one or two of the lower unites broken off from the side loads in the turns. It was just a big outboard Tunnel Boat

I went there to see the turbines run.

BTW , I was at the Sacramento Race at Fulsom Lake also . Mira Slovack won that race . Was he driving Wahoo ?

Dick Roberts

Albuquerque NM

Mira Slovak was driving the chrysler crew U-77 in 1967. Don't recall who won the final(another senior moment). Chrysler crew did win one heat race in rough water. Do you remember the merc boat in the pits? They also had a race in 1966 in Sacramento that I did not attend-don't have a clue on that one and can't find any history on it. Thanks' for the reply Dick. Glenn Gates

 

[Flyguy55]

Race history here http://www.lesliefield.com/default_frame.htm

Miss Lapeer won the 66 race , Ididnt go

Miss Bardahl / Billy Schumacher won the 67 race. What I remembered was Mira Slovac flying a Bucker Youngman( sp) aerobatic airshow over the lake between heats .

I don't remember a Mercury powered boat then .

Dick

I raced tunnel boats from 70 to 78. I won a couple National Championships in the late 70s in Mod U and Mod 120..I knew Jim Hauenstein , His brother was , as I remember , a head engineer at Mercury Racing Div.I saw him at the Lake Mead race working on the Arcadian. He invited me up to look it over. I spent a several hours with him. The boat was a tail dragger ( not a conventional 3 point), built by one of the top pro outboard hydro builders. It was built to run on the back of the boat and just float the front sponsons except in the turns.

It had a straight drive shaft running through the center of the hull. 8 outboard power heads each driving the drive shaft through a tooth belt( no gearboxes when I saw it run), 4 on each side . It only had 6 engines running when I saw it. It had blown several spare power heads. A belt would break , the engine rpm would rise till the engine blew with no load . I don't remember Jim driving , not sure he was licensed to drive an Unlimites . But that was 30 yrs ago.

Jim said the hull ran pretty good in flat water when all the engines were running but didn't like the race water with other unlimiteds on the course .

It ran more like a flat bottom then a Hydro. rough ride

I also saw the Texmo run at the Clear Lake TX race. I cant remember the drivers name now ( senior moment ), but I knew him and raced against him also. He invited me over to look the boat over.

The Texmo was Triple outboard powered with 3 big offshore outboards , and every time I saw it run , it came in with one or two of the lower unites broken off from the side loads in the turns. It was just a big outboard Tunnel Boat

I went there to see the turbines run.

BTW , I was at the Sacramento Race at Fulsom Lake also . Mira Slovack won that race . Was he driving Wahoo ?

Dick Roberts

Albuquerque NM

Mira Slovak was driving the chrysler crew U-77 in 1967. Don't recall who won the final(another senior moment). Chrysler crew did win one heat race in rough water. Do you remember the merc boat in the pits? They also had a race in 1966 in Sacramento that I did not attend-don't have a clue on that one and can't find any history on it. Thanks' for the reply Dick. Glenn Gates

 

[K.R.Joye]

DICK any chance you could give us a better explanation of what the Arcadians bottom looked like. Did the Tunnel side sponson (right side)run all the way back? Was it shingled or stepped?

Was it a tradional looking transom? Was the Hydro sponson (left side) traditional looking with TURN FIN? Any help would be appreciated i hoping to draw this thing up for off season project.

Thanks,

KRJoye

I raced tunnel boats from 70 to 78. I won a couple National Championships in the late 70s in Mod U and Mod 120..I knew Jim Hauenstein , His brother was , as I remember , a head engineer at Mercury Racing Div.I saw him at the Lake Mead race working on the Arcadian. He invited me up to look it over. I spent a several hours with him. The boat was a tail dragger ( not a conventional 3 point), built by one of the top pro outboard hydro builders. It was built to run on the back of the boat and just float the front sponsons except in the turns.

It had a straight drive shaft running through the center of the hull. 8 outboard power heads each driving the drive shaft through a tooth belt( no gearboxes when I saw it run), 4 on each side . It only had 6 engines running when I saw it. It had blown several spare power heads. A belt would break , the engine rpm would rise till the engine blew with no load . I don't remember Jim driving , not sure he was licensed to drive an Unlimites . But that was 30 yrs ago.

Jim said the hull ran pretty good in flat water when all the engines were running but didn't like the race water with other unlimiteds on the course .

It ran more like a flat bottom then a Hydro. rough ride

I also saw the Texmo run at the Clear Lake TX race. I cant remember the drivers name now ( senior moment ), but I knew him and raced against him also. He invited me over to look the boat over.

The Texmo was Triple outboard powered with 3 big offshore outboards , and every time I saw it run , it came in with one or two of the lower unites broken off from the side loads in the turns. It was just a big outboard Tunnel Boat

I went there to see the turbines run.

BTW , I was at the Sacramento Race at Fulsom Lake also . Mira Slovack won that race . Was he driving Wahoo ?

Dick Roberts

Albuquerque NM

 

[Flyguy55]

Sorry Ken

I don't remember much about the bottom. It was flat on the trailer and I don't remember even looking at the bottom or sponsons. I had seen how the tail dragers ran in Stock , Mod , and Pro outboards .

The drivers scoot way back and fly the sponsons off the water like a mono or a tunnel down the straghts.

I didn't see how it was ever going to work with an unlimited. I was more interested in how it was put together mechanically. It did have a turn fin on the left side. Can you imagine trying to synchronize 8 engines ,each with 3 carbs . I thought thats why they were breaking belts , one or 2 engines pulling harder then the others .

Dick

DICK any chance you could give us a better explanation of what the Arcadians bottom looked like. Did the Tunnel side sponson (right side)run all the way back? Was it shingled or stepped?

Was it a tradional looking transom? Was the Hydro sponson (left side) traditional looking with TURN FIN? Any help would be appreciated i hoping to draw this thing up for off season project.

Thanks,

KRJoye

 

[My Gypsy]

The right sponson was the same length as the left sponson. It only appeared to be the full length of the hull from the top. The non-trip area behind the right sponson had a very shallow angle, placing the shear (top of the non-trip) in line with the sponson shear. The shallow angle helps with the left hand turns.

The non-trip behind the left sponson had a much steeper angle, placing the shear closer to the centerline of the hull, making the left side look more like a traditional hydro.

Many hydros were built with a lower angle non-trip on the right side, including the 1980 Budweiser, just not to the extent as seen on the Arcadian.

 

[K.R.Joye]

The right sponson was the same length as the left sponson. It only appeared to be the full length of the hull from the top. The non-trip area behind the right sponson had a very shallow angle, placing the shear (top of the non-trip) in line with the sponson shear. The shallow angle helps with the left hand turns.
The non-trip behind the left sponson had a much steeper angle, placing the shear closer to the centerline of the hull, making the left side look more like a traditional hydro.

Many hydros were built with a lower angle non-trip on the right side, including the 1980 Budweiser, just not to the extent as seen on the Arcadian.

DENNIS is there anyway you could draw up some sketches of the Arcadian bottom/sponson layout etc. Bottom view and Sponson Side views for each side. Also sketch of the transom since it wasn't symetrical. I'm assuming the bottom was also flat as a board from transom to picklefork. Also was bottom deeper by the driver? If you could mail it to me i would reimburse you for your trouble. This would get real tricky because the hull would need to be symetricly reversed for clockwise running.

I'm serious about drawing this one up for scale competition.

Thanks!!!

KRJoye

74258 Judges Ct

Romeo , Mi 48065