I havent tried either pipe you're thinking of... but when I need a replacement pipe and I asked Rod G about trying my .21 pipe (OPS 3280) he said it had too much volume/not a good idea. Just an FYI, the Miss Bud .15 Proboat pipe is a dead ringer for a MACS 2.5 pipe which I've had good luck with and should be able to be bought cheap.