Whats Your Method?

[davo]

I will have to go with Don, GTR and Tim D

 

[Guest]

"As I've learnt from direct experience - it's not such a critical element to boat performance and reliability as you or Don imply."
Well you can believe what you want, based on YOUR own personal experiences. I base my recommendations on the many problems that have been seen & SOLVED by eliminating these solid mounts in OTHER people's boats. And you already admitted you most likely would NOT have broken your 2 motors if they had been sitting in a iso mount so breaking motors isn't critical?? :wacko: :wacko:

B) Belief is one thing Don, and experience learnt from actual occurences are another. It's not a matter of belief, but what I've experienced. Not because someone told me, and not because it happened to someone else's boat that I didn't build, but by my own trial and error, testing, evaluating etc etc.

I think I explained this clearly before, but I'll do it again, because you misquote me...

The reason the crankcase broke on two occasions was the two sides of the motor were mounted slightly uneven on a solid mount that wasn't a one piece design. What DID fix the problem was a one piece solid cradle. Indeed, it is most obvious, that a two piece iso type mount would also have achieved the same thing. No rocket science there, and I haven't said anything else to the contrary...

I didn't go the iso mount way because vibration isn't an issue, neither is noise and I didn't have the space to do an iso type efficiently. Works well, no radio glitches, no broken flex's, no loose or broken bits and I've got lots of hours up, running upto 60% nitro. mmm

My advice that, IF you ARE using a solid mount, use a one piece design. That's good advice and what my reply's are all about... And again again, I stick with that advice. B)

 

[BradV]

"As I've learnt from direct experience - it's not such a critical element to boat performance and reliability as you or Don imply."
Well you can believe what you want, based on YOUR own personal experiences. I base my recommendations on the many problems that have been seen & SOLVED by eliminating these solid mounts in OTHER people's boats. And you already admitted you most likely would NOT have broken your 2 motors if they had been sitting in a iso mount so breaking motors isn't critical?? :wacko: :wacko:

B) Belief is one thing Don, and experience learnt from actual occurences are another. It's not a matter of belief, but what I've experienced. Not because someone told me, and not because it happened to someone else's boat that I didn't build, but by my own trial and error, testing, evaluating etc etc.

I think I explained this clearly before, but I'll do it again, because you misquote me...

The reason the crankcase broke on two occasions was the two sides of the motor were mounted slightly uneven on a solid mount that wasn't a one piece design. What DID fix the problem was a one piece solid cradle. Indeed, it is most obvious, that a two piece iso type mount would also have achieved the same thing. No rocket science there, and I haven't said anything else to the contrary...

I didn't go the iso mount way because vibration isn't an issue, neither is noise and I didn't have the space to do an iso type efficiently. Works well, no radio glitches, no broken flex's, no loose or broken bits and I've got lots of hours up, running upto 60% nitro. mmm

My advice that, IF you ARE using a solid mount, use a one piece design. That's good advice and what my reply's are all about... And again again, I stick with that advice.

 

[Don Ferrette]

"I have broken two crankcases because of incorrect engine support, where the motor was solid mounted but not in a solid one piece cradle or platform. Since going back to a solid cradle I've had no problems. Perhaps if each side of the motor was rubber mounted, and not solid mounted, it also might not have happened..."

So where exactly did I misquote you?? The sentence "Pehaps if each side of the motor..." is what I was getting at, sorry if I forgot the word "perhaps". Like I've said if it works for you based on your boats well that's GREAT!! But I've had the opportunity to help a good number of other boaters who have experienced a wide range of problems that were DIRECTLY related to the solid mount. I'm not basing my advise on my personal experiences, but rather on the PROBLEMS others have had to deal with. Like I just said, I think it's great it works for you & I'm certainly not trying to get you to change. However, for the vast majority who read & participate in this forum, the solid mount is NOT good for them as they also have to contend with other things besides reliability like NOISE & hull noise from solid mounts is a big factor. The odds of problems with solid mounts is there & the track record over the years bears this out. Sure, there are those like yourself who have not had any issues but the ones who have outweigh the ones who haven't. Why start someone down a path of potential issues rather than a path that will be realitively trouble free, at least in the motor mount area? I've recommended what is best for the majority of people not what's best for me or you.