"Vintage" boats...what do you remember about........

[David Homer]

Anyone remember what brand of mono THIS was? - its a .21 on the back...This was "technically" my FIRST mono, even though I never raced it (dad hated it)

MY first racing boat however...and I consider it my first... was the Lil Streaker...(still have big brother 40 size available for pictures)

Either way...go figure...my first was green...

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Garrett

That looks like a fiberglass version of the original Dumas DV-40.. early-mid 70's-ish..

 

[Mark Grannis]

I was 10 or 11 at the Hennesey Race in Indy and hit up dad for two quarters. One of them hit for a .60 G & M Models flat bottom mono (Misty?). It was a very quick build and was running in a few weeks with HP.61, side port, nonmuffled, mounted on an angle so most of the exhaust could maybe get out of the hull. When this boat was first set in the lake it arced left and we couldn't keep it from crashing in that block wall just pass the dock at the old "Just Add Water" pond. Some of you "Longtime Boaters" might rember that most unique race site. Later, Gary taught us to just slam it down in the water to get it on plane.

Sidebar: That race was cool! On Saturday there was a pontoon boat that would go out by the shore from the northwest side of the pond and travel counter clockwise following near the shore to the southeast corner and turn around to go back. This was all going on while the race was being ran. It was simulating ocean waves to get that realistic offshore racing feel. It was later decided to stop that practice, but the reason had noting to do with safety!

My next was a Ed Hughey round nose with a Veco .19 followed with I think a Daniels OPS.60 deep v.

Then came the riggers in the early mid 70's. Wing Dings 20, 40, 60 and twin 60 with twin shafts at the 75 Nats. I still have Dad's first place trophy for timed oval with his twin.

My next raffle winner was Detroit built .40 Crapshooter with the hardwood sponson booms powered first with OS.40s then later powered by K&B 6.5 & 7.5. Get this, I wanted to mount the water pick up and turn fin just like my 20 Hughey roundnose. I thought I knew my stuff. Boy that boat could get up in the air! DAD FIXED THAT PROBLEM QUICK.

Late 70's to mid 80's all Marty Davis Crapshooters, I had the black & dayglo pink. None of those other guys were man enough to take the pink, so they left it for the kid. See Andy & John it is a curse they put on me way back. I have to tell the rest of this story. At the 2001 Nats in Sarasota, Either Andy or John Brown sent his son over to inform me that my pink boat was a girls boat. I was busting a gut inside, but I could not let it show. I explained to him the only thing worse than owning a pink boat was getting beat by one.

Back on topic...Early 90's a Mr. Pinkert .60 Coyote made the fleet. Good runner. I narrowed up the center section.

93 to late 90's scratch built carbon fiber Raptors and Miss US1/8th scale. Still have some bare Raptor tubs laying around.

Late 90's to present Ralph Almirola buit Roadrunners.

Thanks for starting this topic, for I enjoyed reading and sharing on this one. My wife kept asking me why I was laughing while I was typing. I'm sorry for wandering and being so long.

MG

 

[Chris Wood]

my first boat was a mono

sytler 40 with a rossi either 65 or 80.. WOW hang on to that thing.. lol was out testing one time and lost the rudder servo. ( dad still says i just didn't turn lol ) boat went up the bank and onto the edge of the freeway still running lol!!

I remember dad's hydro was a beleive black spider?? i think..

And i remember HARD SHAFTS wow i tell you what.. them things were an absolute waste. i remember dad bringing home a flex shaft and going ( there is no way this is going to work )

and finally i remember before radio box tape.. screws and silicone lol!!!

lots of good stuff. even marty d's laydown motor crapshooter

chris

 

[JSCARPINO]

My first boat was a Ski-dadle 40 with a Fox 45 with a Kool Klamp strapped around the head

with a Kraft Radio the one with the servo block that I believe had the receiver built in along

with the 2 servos in one case. (circa 1972)

Ah but my Real first boat was a Don Pinkert Coyote with a OS 46 with a RPM rod and a MAC

pipe...... I loved that boat and it one me many a club race down in South Florida.

I believe a friend of mine Dave Veile still has the exact same Hull and motor...(circa 1984)

Then my Twin 90 Mongoose which scared the hell out of me when it came up on pipe....

(circa 1988)

I love R/C boating

Check This Link Out:

http://www.rchalloffame.org/index.html

 

[Mike Hallam]

My first boat that I built was a Dumas Miss Unlimited in 1963. I think I ran an Enya 30 in it and then put an Enya 60 in it. Boat couldn't handle the 60 and it disintegrated. I had a Kraft radio with wind up escapements that did the job that servos do today. Transmitter had one button on the front. One blip for low speed, two blips for high speed, three blips for left rudder and 4 blips for right rudder. It was a handful to drive. The first fibreglass boat I bought was in 1969. It was a Li'l Hoss out of Arizona. It's about the size of today's sport 40's. It had a gold metalflake deck and I ran a side exhaust Supertiger 65 in it. I still have it on the shelf in the basement. I'd like to get it out one day with a .45 engine in it but the cowling doesn't lend itself very well to rear exhaust engines.

Then in the early 70's, I ran Crapshooter boats that I used to help Tim Reese build.

 

[Tom Foley]

my first boat was a mono
sytler 40 with a rossi either 65 or 80.. WOW hang on to that thing.. lol was out testing one time and lost the rudder servo. ( dad still says i just didn't turn lol ) boat went up the bank and onto the edge of the freeway still running lol!!

I remember dad's hydro was a beleive black spider?? i think..

And i remember HARD SHAFTS wow i tell you what.. them things were an absolute waste. i remember dad bringing home a flex shaft and going ( there is no way this is going to work )

and finally i remember before radio box tape.. screws and silicone lol!!!

lots of good stuff. even marty d's laydown motor crapshooter

chris

ALL THAT !!!

 

[GRoth265]

Lets not forget the custom sump fuel tanks because we hadn't figured pressure out. Also dual rudders with dual servos because the current servos only had about 25 oz. of torque. When the Kraft KPS-15II came out it was a revolution. Can't remember the specs. but I think it was around a whopping 60oz. Some one mentioned straight shafts and universal joints. Now thats a bad memory I think thats how Loktite Made all there money. How many out there started there motors with a piece of Rope? Greg

 

[jetpack]

Anyone remember the Norco Eaglet?

I'm reminded about it all the time. I have a full set of templates for one that's ready to be cut, plus one pound shy of a ton of Octura brass outdrive hardware I've polished for the transom, and a NIB K&B .21 with Prather water cooled exhaust throttle, ceramic bearings and a variety of venturi sizes ready to drop in.

How about a Pilot Sorocco? I just have the factory drawing for that one however, no templates Maybe someone could help out with that.

B) Old School Rules! B) What's with this topic "boats we no longer race"? Did I miss something? Hey IMPBA and NAMBA, how about a historic Drag N' Fly class? There's three sizes ya know, IB or OB...

 

[Grimracer]

Here are some from my Collection.

Left to Right

Hustler (built)

Wingding (NIB)

Hughey 20 Rigger (NIB)

Bushwhacker (NIB)

Hustler (NIB)

Pinckert Gator (NIB)

Grim

 

[Bob Morton]

Neat stuff B) B) Now this is what it`s all about. Kool boats and havin fun

 

[Terry Keeley]

My first boat that I built was a Dumas Miss Unlimited in 1963. I think I ran an Enya 30 in it and then put an Enya 60 in it. Boat couldn't handle the 60 and it disintegrated. I had a Kraft radio with wind up escapements that did the job that servos do today. Transmitter had one button on the front. One blip for low speed, two blips for high speed, three blips for left rudder and 4 blips for right rudder. It was a handful to drive. The first fibreglass boat I bought was in 1969. It was a Li'l Hoss out of Arizona. It's about the size of today's sport 40's. It had a gold metalflake deck and I ran a side exhaust Supertiger 65 in it. I still have it on the shelf in the basement. I'd like to get it out one day with a .45 engine in it but the cowling doesn't lend itself very well to rear exhaust engines.Then in the early 70's, I ran Crapshooter boats that I used to help Tim Reese build.

WOW!

I remember your early 'Shooters, here's a nice pix of one from Phil's gallery:

What was that white one you had called? Was it "Snow Job" or something?

 

[Don Templeton]

My late 70s Crapshooter Sprint 67 still looking as it did back then. Took 12 4/40s to screw down the radio box but sure was fast for it's time thanks to Marty Davis and John Ackerman.

 

[ChrisCapaldi]

Here are pictures of some old twins including the Black Rushin.

Chris

https://www.intlwaters.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=299

 

[dschigoda]

I posted 19 old race boat photos on my gallery. All of them are from about 1980 to 1990, and include a 45 Coyote, wood HotShot, wood Tom'sCat, WardCraft Mono, 1990 Milwaukee Mini Unlimited, etc.

Fun times.

Dave

 

[Rigged]

i still have a Pinkert .40 round nose hydro in pretty good shape. Sits in a box with probably 10" of dust on it now

 

[JRXHydros]

I remember a twin at the Indy Unlimited I think in 1978 that won with a perfect score. The twin was massive with OPS 60s, the engines sitting in the boat looked very small for the size of the boat. The boat weight was 17 to 20lbs. It was a very powerful twin, other boats that day just looked like toys. It took two men to get it to the water. This twin was ahead of its time. Today I have seen alot of twins, but I have never seen anything like this twin. This man was a great engineer of a boat design and engine power. And he was running OPS 60s(The Gray Head 60), plus the sound was like no other twin. One BAD AZZ!

 

[Grimracer]

Dave...

More more more.. great pics....

Gim

 

[NAMBA860]

i startrted back in 1984. as a 13 year old kid first year of high school. my mom and dad took my to whitter,ca. to buy my first boat a second generation magic mono with a k/b 3.5 o/b on it. i was so excited. we had a 82 dodge rancharger at the time and we put the boat in the back of it and i stared at it the whole way back from whitter to las vegas. my dad wouldnt let me touch it. the boat was an xmas present and it was two weeks till xmas. i must have read that k/b owners manuel a 100 times before i got home that day.some of the boats i remeber that stuck in my head were the outrigger that had the 60 size engine laying on its side in the boat i beleieve there was a hole drilled in the side of the tub to gain access to the glow plug.team fat out of scottsdale had an aeromarine cat with 2 picco 90s in it they called it the 2 headed monster. damn that boat had an unbelievble sound and god was it fast. i think lenny blake owns that boat now.also a very large cat that had 4 k/b .67 outboards on it and it took a gallon of fuel to fill all 4 tanks. if memory serves me right ralph henry drove it as an exhibition at legg lake,ca.we all pretty much ran k/b and picco engines back then and ran prather or magic monos i do remember jack oxleys super fast k/b wing dings and doc joe bruzzes had some high end coyotes that ran rossis that latter ended up in the hands of ralph henry. i will never forget the most dominate scale boat i have ever seen from my dear friend bruce gaines was his circus cirus canard it would lap boats by the 3 lap he teamed up with oxley one year and dominated scale that year! i still remember to the day a race that season i went to with bruce and jack at lake prado and walley stewart was in namba at the time he wanted that boat to be dq from racing any more. well shortly after that walley left namba and joined impba. i remeber when bruce sold that canard i guy from back east bought it and he striped it to a bare hull and bill fritz pulled a mold off it. so if you have ever seen a fritz canard that was bruces design.

 

[Marty Davis]

Really cool pictures guys, thanks for sharing- Neat thread !!! Anybody got any more of this with maybe the cowl off ??

Marty ?? - share any stories about it ?

I would really like to see the lay down engine design....

https://www.intlwaters.com/gallery/displayimage...=166&pos=15

Phil those JVS Hydro's look pretty cool too- how did they run ??

https://www.intlwaters.com/gallery/displayimage...=116&pos=19

That can of Missile Mist in the background shore brings back some memories of dad at the flying field...

Andy

Andy:

That was my lay down 60 boat and was one of my all time favorites. Liked the way it looked more than the way it ran. Was really not much better than the upright but might have won a couple heats even before I alunched it because of how fast and cool it looked. It was really difficult to build and attach the engine.

I built several lay down .21 boat that were really great and ran great. Also, probably no better than the uprights because of how slow we were running at that time. The .21's were easy to build since we were running the K&B's and all we had to do was mount them on the back plate on a piece of aluminum angle. Simple and effective setup.

Marty Davis

 

[Marty Davis]

Nice pictures Terry and Phil. I like the pictures that you have of John Bridge's geared twin. For those that never had a chance to see it run, you sure missed something awesome. I remember that when that boat would start, everyone would stop and move to the shoreline to watch. The sound that it made with the geared motors to single drive shaft was the coolest thing I have ever heard in model boating. We will probably never see or here anything like that again.

I'll have to tell my dad to dig up his old pictures from the late 60's (before outriggers) and get them converted to digital so he can post them one day.

Yes the "Special Brew Racing Crew" John Bridge, Tim Reiss, (I think). and Ron Walker (standing on a big step ladder) driving "The Black Rushin". Those guys certainly got everyone's attention. Imagine a twin geared together through "stacks" LOUD!!!! First race I ever went to was in Flint. Here is this guy starting a boat with a car starter and a 90 deg. drive on the end.. LOL.. running an eight channel Kraft radio and using every channel to control something on the boat Mixture, crankcase pressure, the wing on the back etc etc. Gearing two engines together on a half inch drive shaft..The thing was something jus shy of 25 pounds. LOL

Notice the beverages on the table.

Tell you a little story about Tim Ries and his days building Crapshooters. He was a MASTER CRAFTSMAN and the boat kits that he put out were as good as the ones that Stu builds now. Tim had his shop outfitted really well. He has an old refrigerator with only one shelf in it. It held a "Pony Keg" on that one shelf and had a tap on the front of the Frig. No need to even open the door. As I understand, he had to change the Keg quite frequently. I remember visiting the shop whenever I was in Detroit ....

Marty Davis