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Sorry Preston and Don - I've been off line for a few days.

Preston, - Seems like you are right - approx. 25k @ 10" if i did my calc's correctly.

I wasn't doubting that it ran that way or that it was that fast, (clearly it is that fast) - just went against my testing and my general thoughts on MAC's pipes.

I've run The MAC's 90 pipe that short on a K90 but found the Steve Muck 80 pipe more to my liking with that particular motor. Those Muck pipes love being set up very short. (boy they get thirsty for fuel like that!) Don't know how it would work on a CMB 90 but it made a noticable difference to the K motors. I run the Muck pipe on my K67 also. I've just started testing the "salisbury pipes" K90 proto and it is looking very promising so far. Broke the tub before I could get a true feeling for this pipe. :blink: :blink:

Most guys that know me are aware I like to shorten my pipes up a lot more than most and I spend loads of $$$ testing different pipes on each new boat. Some combinations of motors & pipes are useless when run short, and what works well on 1 motor does not always work on a different brand.

There are certain motors that have a mechanical limitation when revved very hard - an example that springs to mind is the Picco 67EXR's. Snapped cranks and rods was common and so utilising the torque was a cheaper / more reliable alternative. I switched from the Picco to the K67 for 1 reason only - I could run the pipe as short as I wanted without the fear of snapping a crankpin off the crank.

I still say the 3 piece crank design is not up to sustained high rev's on a SURFACE drive application. Seen too many twisted ones needing attention. Having said that - they are still a great engine and have many wins to their name to prove it.

40K = "the brown note" :D
 
Remember Tim that it takes HP to rev a motor high.....

That`s why a "optimum" rpm is the most efficient.

To run a MAC pipe at 10" is in the 25-27k range..

I ran a MUCK 15cc pipe at 10 3/4-11" on my K90 and that gave me around 25k.

What is "salisbury pipes"?????? any pics???

Anders
 
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Remember Tim that it takes HP to rev a motor high.....That`s why a "optimum" rpm is the most efficient.

To run a MAC pipe at 10" is in the 25-27k range..

I ran a MUCK 15cc pipe at 10 3/4-11" on my K90 and that gave me around 25k.

What is "salisbury pipes"?????? any pics???

Anders
True Anders, very true. It's no use at all if you make heaps of power at really high RPM if you cant spin the prop up to those revs in the boat. Some pipes will make the top end power but at the cost of a huge torque dip at lower revs which can be hard to overcome in a boat.

Salisbury pipes = new pipes designed and made by a few Aussie members of this board specifically for particular engines. The K90 pipe is only in early proto stages and I was testing it for them until I damaged the boat. If it works like it should I'll let you know - won't be for a few weeks tho'. The A90HP pipe is amazing B) B) Pic's might get me in trouble. I'm sure the parties involved will comment on this soon.

Have you tried the Muck 80 pipe on the k90 ;) Probably too loud for your rules in Europe but a very good combo.
 
Anders,

The Salisbury Pipes are carbon composite pipes that I am designing. Very early stages yet, I have only done 3 pipes, a MAC67, K-90 and A100. The A100 pipe works very well, Tim has the K-90 pipe to test, and the MAC 67 pipe works, but I am not entirely happy with it yet.

The pipes are pretty strong! My 67 boat was run over at IMPBA, the pipe took a big hit from the other boat's turn fin, but the pipe held it's shape and I kept running it!! B)

The pic is my A100 pipe.

Nitrocrazed racing: Reptile-skin pipes! :p

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Allen! That sounds like an awesome boat there! (full size) What is it, fountain, advantage,baja? We just sold our boat, gunna buy a bigger faster in spring :D

PHil :eek: :) B)
 
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