Super COOL new old boat I just got

[Glenn Quarles]

Yeah I was kinda thinking of putting a Nova 46 in it...looks about the right size

yeah, the dimensions of the Wing Ding 60 (in it's latter days existence) suited itself well moreso for a .45 (7.5cc) class engine, nicely balanced for heat racing in all water conditions

David, were the earlier 60 boats a different size?

 

[Will Gallagher]

Here is what you started with.......

 

[Bob Morton]

hummmm nice advtar tooooo

 

[David Bryant]

no, they were always the same dimensions.

I forget exactly when the first Wing Ding's were released (could have been like 1972 or 1973 or 1974?), anyway they were initally sized for the displacement's used of the time- ie. 60 boats were using .60cu engines, 40 boats were using .40cu engines, etc.,....As the years moved on the 60 class boats were using .65cu and .67cu, 40 class boats were using .45cu . The newer generation schneurle ported/rear induction engines became so much more powerful that the larger footprint 60 class Wing Ding suited itself better for the newer .45cu displacement engines. Although people ran .65/.67cu engines in the 60 class Wing Ding as well, but I preferred a longer boat (for 60 or "C" class myself).

 

[David Bryant]

Yeah I was kinda thinking of putting a Nova 46 in it...looks about the right size

yeah, the dimensions of the Wing Ding 60 (in it's latter days existence) suited itself well moreso for a .45 (7.5cc) class engine, nicely balanced for heat racing in all water conditions

David, were the earlier 60 boats a different size?

no, they were always the same dimensions.
I forget exactly when the first Wing Ding's were released (could have been like 1972 or 1973 or 1974?), anyway they were initally sized for the displacement's used of the time- ie. 60 boats were using .60cu engines, 40 boats were using .40cu engines, etc.,....As the years moved on the 60 class boats were using .65cu and .67cu, 40 class boats were using .45cu . The newer generation schneurle ported/rear induction engines became so much more powerful that the larger footprint 60 class Wing Ding suited itself better for the newer .45cu displacement engines. Although people ran .65/.67cu engines in the 60 class Wing Ding as well, but I preferred a longer boat (for 60 or "C" class myself).

 

[Glenn Quarles]

Here is what you started with.......

Thanks for the pic. I would love to find a kit to build!

 

[gil sonsino]

Glenn I guess the Wing Ding series was released in the mid 70's and I built one in 1982 with an OPS 60 Speed....cool stuff but heavy compared with our modern riggers.

Gill

 

[Andy Brown]

Wing Dings dominated the Indy Unlimited in the mid 1970's. There were a number of twins built from scratch. My .60 Wing Ding had a solid shaft (not adjustable) on ball bearings. Ran a 1462 behind the Super Tigre X-40. Some guys moved the turnfin to the sponson. I actually ran the tub mounted fin and it worked suprisingly well.

 

[Buckshot]

Here ya go GQ. As you can see, either Alton or the person Alton bought it from decided to convert it over to a single engine boat. Even with all the modifications and years of abuse it still looks really cool.

 

[Glenn Quarles]

Here ya go GQ. As you can see, either Alton or the person Alton bought it from decided to convert it over to a single engine boat. Even with all the modifications and years of abuse it still looks really cool.

Yeah, that is awesome...I would love to see it back as a twin!

GQ

 

[John Beardslee]

Yeah I was kinda thinking of putting a Nova 46 in it...looks about the right size

yeah, the dimensions of the Wing Ding 60 (in it's latter days existence) suited itself well moreso for a .45 (7.5cc) class engine, nicely balanced for heat racing in all water conditions

David, were the earlier 60 boats a different size?

no, they were always the same dimensions.
I forget exactly when the first Wing Ding's were released (could have been like 1972 or 1973 or 1974?), anyway they were initally sized for the displacement's used of the time- ie. 60 boats were using .60cu engines, 40 boats were using .40cu engines, etc.,....As the years moved on the 60 class boats were using .65cu and .67cu, 40 class boats were using .45cu . The newer generation schneurle ported/rear induction engines became so much more powerful that the larger footprint 60 class Wing Ding suited itself better for the newer .45cu displacement engines. Although people ran .65/.67cu engines in the 60 class Wing Ding as well, but I preferred a longer boat (for 60 or "C" class myself).

I can't tell you the year they became available for sale but Mike M (Tom Prezenka son in law) ran the 60 version at the 72 Internats in Flint, MI. I have lots of slides.

John

 

[John Beardslee]

Wing Dings dominated the Indy Unlimited in the mid 1970's. There were a number of twins built from scratch. My .60 Wing Ding had a solid shaft (not adjustable) on ball bearings. Ran a 1462 behind the Super Tigre X-40. Some guys moved the turnfin to the sponson. I actually ran the tub mounted fin and it worked suprisingly well.

The pic's I took at our 72 nats showed Mike Melbush(sp) was running a solid shaft but it went to the octura steering strut - no rudder, there was a ball & pin universal set up. The solid shaft just existed the hull and the steering strut slid into it and the pivot of the strut had to match perfect with the c/l of the universal or it would tear things up big time. Don't ask how I know.

John

 

[Terry Keeley]

Man I'd love to see some of those pix from the '72 Nats in Flint, any way to convert them to digital?

Legend has it "Pinkert's Point" (the bit that sticks out by buoy 1) was named either at that Nats or a Record Trial shortly thereafter, any recollection of that?

 

[Tom Foley]

Tom Perzentzka (SP ) was way ahead of the times with all the extruded aluminum parts he made available . I gutted my Wing Ding , made billet spacers for the motor mount area and recessed the transom with the notion of putting a 7.5 KB outboard on her but aborted the project . I still have a 40 size Crapshooter with an OPS 67 in it . Might have to break it out !

 

[John Beardslee]

Man I'd love to see some of those pix from the '72 Nats in Flint, any way to convert them to digital?

Legend has it "Pinkert's Point" (the bit that sticks out by buoy 1) was named either at that Nats or a Record Trial shortly thereafter, any recollection of that?

Hi Terry,

It was at a record trial earlier if I remember right, there used to be a big rock at the end of the point. Don's beautiful rigger, megaphone stack, all mahogany and probably the first 80 mph pass that ended at that point and never made the last bomber site. All my pic's are on slides and when it gets warm up there in April I'll scan a few and shoot them to you. Truth be known, I used the straight on shots from all directions of Mike's rigger to design my first 40 rigger. All my earlier hulls were full body hulls that I reduced from the full sized stock and alky outboards I ran.

John

 

[John Beardslee]

Tom Perzentzka (SP ) was way ahead of the times with all the extruded aluminum parts he made available . I gutted my Wing Ding , made billet spacers for the motor mount area and recessed the transom with the notion of putting a 7.5 KB outboard on her but aborted the project . I still have a 40 size Crapshooter with an OPS 67 in it . Might have to break it out !

Hi Tom,

The early stuff was all cast, but at least for those people that didn't have access to a machine shop it allowed them to play with toy boats.

John

 

[Terry Keeley]

Man I'd love to see some of those pix from the '72 Nats in Flint, any way to convert them to digital?

Legend has it "Pinkert's Point" (the bit that sticks out by buoy 1) was named either at that Nats or a Record Trial shortly thereafter, any recollection of that?

Hi Terry,

It was at a record trial earlier if I remember right, there used to be a big rock at the end of the point. Don's beautiful rigger, megaphone stack, all mahogany and probably the first 80 mph pass that ended at that point and never made the last bomber site. All my pic's are on slides and when it gets warm up there in April I'll scan a few and shoot them to you. Truth be known, I used the straight on shots from all directions of Mike's rigger to design my first 40 rigger. All my earlier hulls were full body hulls that I reduced from the full sized stock and alky outboards I ran.

John

Thanks for the facts, figured it was something like that.

Here's one of our FAST (Flint Ass. Speed Team) members Walt Radzinski after he hit it about 100 mph. :unsure:

Lookin' forward to those old shots!

 

[David Bryant]

whoa, looks to be an Eagle SGX?

 

[gil sonsino]

Yes it was!

 

[Terry Keeley]

whoa, looks to be an Eagle SGX?

Yup, 20 Eagle with a MAC 45 IIRC. Ran average speed of 99.9 through the traps, prolly doin' 103-105 out the back.

I'll never forget that sound...