SEADUCER 45

[Chris Wood]

My father has a 45 seaducer sd 3..

Any of you guy's have a turn fin on the right side of the boat... I noticed the bigger boats do.. just curious if the 45 is supposed to..

also, and idea's on a ruff place to be on the strut height and angle.

thanks

chris

 

[namba276]

Chris

No fin on the .45 sd3. I run a stinger drive on our's at just about neutral or mabye a tick positive. 450 3 blade cupped to reduce lift and add thrust. run the boat a little loose and it hauls the mail. it is prone to dump at those speeds, just drive the boat and you'll be fine. use the throttle if it starts hopping alittle. Also when you attach the steering linkage, mount the pushrod in the hole closest to the centerline on the servo horn.

hope this helps, Bob Tuttle

 

[Chris Wood]

thanks bob,

off the bottom of the boat, about how high is you strut or do you run it as low as it will go?

chris

 

[namba276]

thanks bob,
off the bottom of the boat, about how high is you strut or do you run it as low as it will go?

chris

I mounted it as low as I could in the hull. It's about 3/32 off the bottom. I recemend the syinger drive instead of the manufactures. You dail minute amounts of angle of attack with the stinger. plus it puts the prop back a little in cleaner water. 2-1/2" from the transom.

 

[Joe Warren]

My father has a 45 seaducer sd 3..
Any of you guy's have a turn fin on the right side of the boat... I noticed the bigger boats do.. just curious if the 45 is supposed to..

also, and idea's on a ruff place to be on the strut height and angle.

thanks

chris

Works best with 450/3 pitched al ittle after you get it hauling. Keep the stut level or straight with the bottom of the keel. You can raise the strut Up to loosen the boat Hull.(less prop lift) Lower will allow the prop to lift more & tighten the boat up. Rs 45? it likes the 1060 airplane pipe. No turn fin & turn the Dual Rate on the radio to 35-40 That will be plenty. You wont be able to drive it if it is over 50 percent dual rate. If you got a Great hull ? The hook will stop around 7 7 1/4 inches from the trasom of the boat hull heading forward. if the hook protrudes into the strake area 10-11 inches it will load the piss out of any engine. Good LUCK...

 

[Joe Warren]

My father has a 45 seaducer sd 3..
Any of you guy's have a turn fin on the right side of the boat... I noticed the bigger boats do.. just curious if the 45 is supposed to..

also, and idea's on a ruff place to be on the strut height and angle.

thanks

chris

Works best with 450/3 pitched a little after you get it hauling. Keep the stut level or straight with the bottom of the keel. You can raise the strut Up to loosen the boat Hull.(less prop lift) Lower will allow the prop to lift more & tighten the boat up. Rs 45? it likes the 1060 airplane pipe. No turn fin & turn the Dual Rate on the radio to 35-40 That will be plenty. You wont be able to drive it if it is over 50 percent dual rate. If you got a Great hull ? The hook will stop around 7 7 1/4 inches from the trasom of the boat hull heading forward. if the hook protrudes into the strake area 10-11 inches it will load the piss out of any engine. Good LUCK...

 

[FloridaScaleBoater]

How bout printing out Jerry's instruction manual from seaducer.com

AND FOLLOW IT!!!

If you do as spelled out, the boat will work fine

Oh and there's no fin on the 20 & 40 boats

Tank placement, and engine placement are critical

Rick

 

[Chris Wood]

thanks joe and bob.

We had it running 56 over the weekend.. it is a purple head motor. it was the first time out on the boat and the water was glass smooth so i know that doesn't do an favors for us.

we are running the prop you speak of so i know we have to be in the ball park.

now, what can you do to fix the boat hooking comming out of the corners.

thanks

chris

 

[Chris Wood]

How bout printing out Jerry's instruction manual from seaducer.com
AND FOLLOW IT!!!

If you do as spelled out, the boat will work fine

Oh and there's no fin on the 20 & 40 boats

Tank placement, and engine placement are critical

Rick

I DID RICK!!

i now what the book says.. we started there and the boat was to wet. tank and motor are by the instructions..

chris

 

[namba276]

Chris, you need to add a little positive angle of attack to keep the boat from hooking and hardly any steering. run it like jerry and it will hook like a san francisco street walker.

Bob

 

[Andy Greene]

Minimal rudder input helps also , you can right next door to no rudder throw and they corner great.

 

[Joe Warren]

How bout printing out Jerry's instruction manual from seaducer.com
AND FOLLOW IT!!!

If you do as spelled out, the boat will work fine

Oh and there's no fin on the 20 & 40 boats

Tank placement, and engine placement are critical

Rick

I DID RICK!!

i now what the book says.. we started there and the boat was to wet. tank and motor are by the instructions..

chris

Try This..... Turn the Dual rate Down to 30-40 percent Very little rudder blade movement. if it still is digging in the corners rasie the strut. If the strut is low? the prop is able to lift to the max ability This raises the transom & moves the pivot point forward on the hull making it turn wetter. Also make sure there is No Slop in the radio box to hull area. If you have to shim the radio box tight in the boat hull with G-10 Or carbon strips on the outside of the radio box & For last..... A Turn Servo will fail 1st trying to straigthen the boat out after a hard fast turn. Make sure the turn servo is Good. & I`am sure you already know the conditin of your battery.

 

[Joe Warren]

How bout printing out Jerry's instruction manual from seaducer.com
AND FOLLOW IT!!!

If you do as spelled out, the boat will work fine

Oh and there's no fin on the 20 & 40 boats

Tank placement, and engine placement are critical

Rick

I DID RICK!!

i now what the book says.. we started there and the boat was to wet. tank and motor are by the instructions..

chris

Try This..... Turn the Dual rate Down to 30-40 percent Very little rudder blade movement. if it still is digging in the corners rasie the strut. If the strut is low? the prop is able to lift to the max ability This raises the transom & moves the pivot point forward on the hull making it turn wetter. Also make sure there is No Slop in the radio box to hull area. If you have to shim the radio box tight in the boat hull with G-10 Or carbon strips on the outside of the radio box & For last..... A Turn Servo will fail 1st trying to straigthen the boat out after a hard fast turn. I Have had several fail right there..... Especially Older 645`s... Make sure the turn servo is Good. & I`am sure you already know the condition of your battery.

 

[Bob Finn]

Like Joe said, mine would hook and oversteer when it was running too wet. Raise the strut slightly til you find the sweet spot. It also requires very little steering input, and I use a lot of exponential in the TX to make it easier to drive. My strut is parallel and I also run a slightly pitched X450/3. Its a fistful of fast!

 

[Chris Wood]

sounds good joe and bob,

I raised the strut yesterday and may need to go more..it is flat with the world so i may try positive in it.. we turned the steering dual rate way way down and i slowed it down for him off of the center point with the radio.

may need to just play with the strut more.

how can jerry run the boat that way by the instructions with out hooking ???

chris

 

[Grimracer]

Chris,

No mono expert here but on the mud (flat water) you get what you got. On heat water you know how dramatic the boat will change. I would set the boat just a tad tight and make changes after the first heat. I was surprised how tight Jerry’s boats ran last year. His comment was “it aint going any ware if it’s out of the water”

Just a thought.

Grim

 

[Andy Greene]

I agree with Mark, I think you said it was running 56 MPH ? in dead flat water, Your pretty darn good. I would run the first heat and see what it looks like in race water, its gonna free up a ton in the rough and pick up speed. No need in doing a Seadunker in the first heat. LOL. I probably run mine a little tighter than I should, but it comes back running more times than not.

 

[namba276]

I agree with Mark, I think you said it was running 56 MPH ? in dead flat water, Your pretty darn good. I would run the first heat and see what it looks like in race water, its gonna free up a ton in the rough and pick up speed. No need in doing a Seadunker in the first heat. LOL. I probably run mine a little tighter than I should, but it comes back running more times than not.

If you can't turn ... you can have all the straightaway speed in the world. run positive strut angle and, You may have missed this... move your linkage down close to the hub of the servo on the rudder. as close as you can get it. also tuck the rudder about 3 degrees. go get it!! I'm tellin ya

check it out! Bob

 

[Joe Warren]

sounds good joe and bob,
I raised the strut yesterday and may need to go more..it is flat with the world so i may try positive in it.. we turned the steering dual rate way way down and i slowed it down for him off of the center point with the radio.

may need to just play with the strut more.

how can jerry run the boat that way by the instructions with out hooking ???

chris

Check that servo & the radio box Slop. Also Measure the amount of Hook starting @ the transom Going forward, About in line with the strakes. Storing the boat improperly ( being tied down for long periods in a boat stand with a strap) (BAD)..... or In a trailer with a ton of heat will kill the bottoms. check the mechanical stuff & look @ the bottom of the hull.

 

[Joe Warren]

sounds good joe and bob,
I raised the strut yesterday and may need to go more..it is flat with the world so i may try positive in it.. we turned the steering dual rate way way down and i slowed it down for him off of the center point with the radio.

may need to just play with the strut more.

how can jerry run the boat that way by the instructions with out hooking ???

chris

Jerry Will Rake the Prop Tips a little to lift the front of the Boat. But everything needs to be looked at.