I hope that you will be able to getr back together..i think youll have alot of fun regardless of how any of us do!! What prop are you using? im running a grim 36x55mm on mine and it works really good without loading the engine too much.. Have fun!! Billsince they run stock and mod together it doesn't matter.
Bill I am waiting on some new parts for my motor. I should have the stuff by next weekend, so hopefully I will have enough time to get it back together as well as some test time so that I can be competitive with you guys
The claimer rule sounds great. It keeps the cost of the class down. Those who are inclined to spend money on high $ engines have plenty of other classes to throw the cash at. It's nice to see efforts to keep RTR oriented toward low cost racing.like was stated above ya need to check your local rule i know here we have to have the pull start in place for stock, mod motors can't be over $100 off the shelf (due to claimer clause) <<<< hope that goes away!
Chuck: You are right about the claimer rule, It keeps the cost down for the rtr class by not allowing the high dollar tz's and cvrm's to beat the Aqua motor. The mod class was restricted to allow racers to mod their stock motor and not just bolt in the latest wiz bang high buck motor. We need to remember that the RTR class is an entry level class for the beginner and if you want to go faster there is always Sport 20 and other classes. I think that most districts have been great at keeping the class low buck and fun for the beginner, just because alot of seasoned racers have started running this class doesn't make it a free for all on the rules. keep it simple and have fun.
The claimer rule sounds great. It keeps the cost of the class down. Those who are inclined to spend money on high $ engines have plenty of other classes to throw the cash at. It's nice to see efforts to keep RTR oriented toward low cost racing.like was stated above ya need to check your local rule i know here we have to have the pull start in place for stock, mod motors can't be over $100 off the shelf (due to claimer clause) <<<< hope that goes away!
I've run through a bunch of different approaches in deciding to answer your questions. Finally I decided on this one. These rules have been discussed at length over the last 2 years. It is now time to vote yes or no. Input from many different sources was used to put them down on paper. Are they perfect? Absolutely not. Are they way better than the production RTR rules that are in the rule book now? Yup, they sure are. Do they provide an organization wide framework on which clubs and districts can hold RTR races? Yes, they do. There was a need for rules to be put in place, so Kelly and I did just that.Hey guys I would like to pose a question in reguards to rtr boat rules.A couple of things I was wondering about
1 Who determines what makes a boat rtr?
2 where are the clasifacations in the rulebook?
3 How does the governing body determine if a boat is considered rtr?
I'm asking these questions because there is a lot of my understanding is and this is how we do it and it should be fairly simple to answer these questions in a straight forward manor.
Thank you for your help with shedding some light on these issues.
Stan
first off I didn't think asking some simple questions would stir such a fusssecond I am certainly not attacking anyone so I don't see why there is a need to be so defencive.
wow, ok chuck I thought the answers would be pretty simple to give as they are simple questions.
I would like to know that sence when is asking questions troublemaking? There are a lot of boaters that don't know what the rules are and who made them why is it so hard to answer in a calm manner insted of bringing up people not even involved with this post.
just wondering
if it is an item that can be voted on than why can't it be discussed in an open forum. some good solutions may come out of the discussion like just making a .18 class just like the .21 class you will only atract more people to the hobby and to the clubs by doing it so it's a win win.
Yet again, you're proving that you are little but one of James' mouthpieces. It's a shame that you've chosen to infect yet another IW thread with such crap.you know i could just feel a technical writing coming from someplace---always is.
The only fighting I've seen appears to be coming from one source. Everyone else has been able to have civil discussions about it. The only joke is that a small number of people continue to be enamored with a malcontent who has trouble getting along with anyone who doesn't bow down to his twisted way of thinking.NOW why not just do this----KILL the RTR class both stock and mod relieve lots of stress its been the most piss poor excuse for everyone to fight over for "two years" < that in itself is a joke get real two years to figure out rules LMAO-------
I'm really surprised that someone who has been watching this discussion for so long would forget some of the reasons why your suggestion won't work. For example, if the A class was changed, what does that do for people with RTR boats that have .32 engines in them? And what happens when the manufacturers decide to end production of .18 sized boats and change to .25s instead? Do we then suggest that we should change the IMPBA B class to fit the whims of the RTR manufacturers? The .18s already have a place to run in non-RTR IMPBA classes if they so desire, in the B class. And where's the value in telling someone with a $300 boat that they should race it against people who spend that much or more on just the engine? Perhaps you've lost sight of who the RTR class is designed for?REVISE the already existing IMPBA CLASS A to fit the .18 engine (get with the times)and call it a day seriously there arnt that many .12 boats aqround as a whole---new guys have an entery level class they can go so their not left out anyplace----- You Kill the call letters "R.T.R" you solve many issues
Mike, as I said in the other post, the argument seems to be coming from one source. Lots of us have been racing, but the leg work of getting rules in place needed to be done too.Because freeze the rules at hand have been discussed again for "two years" and there is still the same old go nowhere argument thats been there since day one-------race the damn boats and call it a day-------
Look at the RTR rules in the book today for an example. The class was designed for a specific boat that fell flat on its face. IMPBA was left with a class that had no viable boats. Let's say we implement a sport 18 hydro. What happens when the manufacturers decide to stop making a .18 RTR? When they come out with a popular .25 cat do we then implement a sport 25 cat class? How does a sport 18 hydro class help people with mono and cat RTR boats, or RTRs with different engine sizes? And what does a .18 sport hydro class do for people who want to race a nitro SuperVee, TC31, etc? And if you do a sport 18 hydro class, what do you do tell the RTR people who bought $300 RTR boats when others start showing up with $300 engines in custom, significantly more expensive, hulls? Don't say it won't happen, because it already does in other classes or types of racing.first off I didn't think asking some simple questions would stir such a fusssecond I am certainly not attacking anyone so I don't see why there is a need to be so defencive.
wow, ok chuck I thought the answers would be pretty simple to give as they are simple questions.
I would like to know that sence when is asking questions troublemaking? There are a lot of boaters that don't know what the rules are and who made them why is it so hard to answer in a calm manner insted of bringing up people not even involved with this post.
just wondering
if it is an item that can be voted on than why can't it be discussed in an open forum. some good solutions may come out of the discussion like just making a .18 class just like the .21 class you will only atract more people to the hobby and to the clubs by doing it so it's a win win.
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