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To get off the 15 car issue, what about the 99 jumping the start.
XXX-actly...SOOO how could it be that just ONE person could control the turn out of the race...they all had a chance to pit or not,what about Ryan,he was blowing by people on the outside to take the lead,then his pit crew took a dump. He is the one that should be pissed out of them all.
 
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Nascar just dropped the hammer on MWR. No chase for Truex. Truex I would kick some Bowyer ***. Bowyer just really made MWR look really bad!
 
Ehhh. I could agree with that. I follow F1 pretty regularly and there's Team orders, but man that's gotta suck! You would think they would just penalize Bowyer instead of Truex. I don't think Truex didn't deserve to get in the chase but some ignorant people really made them look like clowns.
 
I do have a question, the entire deal wasnt over the spin, it was over Vickers pitting. And how is this any different then pulling over and letting a team mate lead a lap to get there bonus points?
 
You guys seem to ignore the in car audio pretty easy- just sayin :rolleyes:

Did they do what they had to do- Probably -_-

Would they do it again- Probably -_-

Would you have done it - Probably :rolleyes:

I'm sure in this day and age- The Boyer Rule is soon to come :blink:

Bowyer just followed orders.....no different then you doing what your boss tells you to do.

i know that there is a CHUNK of change on the line every lap of every race. but if i were told to "fix" or "throw" a race, i'd bring the car in & park it in my pit spot on pit row & walk. think what you want, but i just ain't built that way. might even have to sucker punch my crew chief on the way by.......for clint to have even entertained the idea, let alone go along with it - just as soon spit in his face as shake his hand. not much lower forms of life as theives, liars or CHEATERS. clint, ty & anyone else involved in that ignorance should be suspended. hell, pete rose didn't try to change the outcome of any game, he just bet on them............rodney, yes i have quit jobs on the spot 'cuz i couldn't go along with a boss that would steal from customers. pretty much what happened, they tried to steal a chase spot for martin. just feel bad about martin being involved with mwr & the way the public is viewing the team.
 
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Nascar just dropped the hammer on MWR. No chase for Truex. Truex I would kick some Bowyer ***. Bowyer just really made MWR look really bad!
The Orders to ( spin the car out) came from Ty Norris (general manager).......... Bowyer just following orders!! they should have frozen the points and the Field and treated it (the SPIN) like a RED FLAG. This would have put all Drivers that had Earned the points for the Chase in the Correct Postions for a Chase Berth!!!
 
Nascar just dropped the hammer on MWR. No chase for Truex. Truex I would kick some Bowyer ***. Bowyer just really made MWR look really bad!
The Orders to ( spin the car out) came from Ty Norris (general manager).......... Bowyer just following orders!! they should have frozen the points and the Field and treated it (the SPIN) like a RED FLAG. This would have put all Drivers that had Earned the points for the Chase in the Correct Postions for a Chase Berth!!!
That's what Gordon was saying. Why fix it halfway. That would put Gordon in the chase also.
 
I believe Joey getting in bumped jeff Out? Joey was NOT IN at the time of the SPIN ....
 
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What you guys are failing to realize, is it wasnt over the spin. It was over them making Vickers put. NASCAR said nothing about the spin. It was the time that Bowyer and Vickers lost on pit road that made them dock everyone on the team 50 points. So no matter what, Gordon wouldnt have made it in, and the only reason Newman still did, was because they docked Truex 50 points pre chase, which moved Newman in front of him.
 
There's a lot at that race that NASCAR screwed up on. The Big one was not doing anything to Carl Edwards. Lets just face it. They failed the whole race.
 
What you guys are failing to realize, is it wasnt over the spin. It was over them making Vickers put. NASCAR said nothing about the spin. It was the time that Bowyer and Vickers lost on pit road that made them dock everyone on the team 50 points. So no matter what, Gordon wouldnt have made it in, and the only reason Newman still did, was because they docked Truex 50 points pre chase, which moved Newman in front of him.
joey lagono bumped jeff. he would Not have been in if not for the Spin and a few other pulling into the pits under green flag laps??. Jeffs current position at the time of the spin would have allow him in the top 10 in points. Clint knows he is a *** clown...... The fact they were all over the radios & could not hide there intentions is what got them all caught. Including Vickers pulling off the track...... Martin Truex did nothing Wrong..... He was Driving his *** Off the entire nite!!!!!!
 
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The Whole race was a fail! What would happen if NASCAR black flagged Carl Edwards for beating the 1st place car to the start line?
 
The Richmond race ought to be just thrown away.

Did anyone else watch NASCAR Race Hub this afternoon? Now the 20 and 38 cars are being investigated for hanky-panky. They weren't too subtle about it on the radio although they went to another channel.
 
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