My turn,
I'm going the other way with this. Untill I see the motors I'll assume they are the same. If they aren't they aren't. Either way, the motor issue is a valid topic.
However, I'm not sure I'm as thrilled with Chris's involvment even if it is a lack thereof. He's not a registered user of this board and bearly ever comments on Rum Runner. I think at times we all assume we are all equally savy on the computer. Well, I know Chris enough to say he isn't.
Paul, Dennis and even I have come to Chris's defense just as I have come to you to support of your products.
Subjective comparrisons are a tough arguement. Those of us who are familar with the SS1 and other 700 motors including the history of the SS1 find it hard to believe that Mabuchi would be selling the same motor 2 months after it's release to Chris. I guess we had assumed Mabuchi would have honored the legal obligation which would tell us the new 8.4 wouldn't be the same as the SS1. Perhaps that explains the passionate arguements.
At the same time you believe to have the clone the the SS1 (the new 8.4 700) in your posession which explains your passion. Andrew, I would be just as passionate about this as you, maybe more! And I don't hold any of it against you nor should you hold any of it against Paul, Dennis or even me to a point.
The only issue I do find myself in dissagreement with is calling Chris into this forum. I know I've called Chris and let him know about the 8.4 and I'm sure Dennis and Paul have too. While I don't know what there conversations have been about, the only thing Chris has told me was how his contract was spelled out and that he'd have to get ahold of one of the new motors and call Mabuchi to see what's up. To be honest I was surprised. I'd be hopping mad (since he still has thousands of motors) but he wants the facts first. I doubt you will see Chris come onto this board and if he does take legal action it will be with those involved and none of our business.
Please don't hold any of this against these guys or me either. We are all friends and are doing what friends do for each other do, namely look out one another.
Time will tell how this new 8.4 will pan out. If I were in your business (selling model boat stuff) I'd hope it was the hot ticket and that I could sell a bundle of them. All you're doing is selling a product that somebody else makes. Isn't that the point?
Good luck!
Dick