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Now which is going to be the bigger thrill, the racing against each other or figuring who's T-4 is who's when you two come out of the turn together?Wouldn't that be a thrill!!!!!!
Now which is going to be the bigger thrill, the racing against each other or figuring who's T-4 is who's when you two come out of the turn together?Wouldn't that be a thrill!!!!!!
that could get diceyNow which is going to be the bigger thrill, the racing against each other or figuring who's T-4 is who's when you two come out of the turn together?Wouldn't that be a thrill!!!!!!![]()
I found this picture I took of the orignal T5 center section once the sponson canoes had been cut off. It was later sold to the Rutt brothers in Tri-Cities and ultimately re-purchased by Ron Brown when he was building Jim Harvey's new boat a few years ago.All the boats had the block lettering before 2001. That is when the logo was changed to the script style.good info, I put an email into Phil and Harry about Bud Boats also. Thanks for all the replies!
The T4 was of course the two wing boat that only raced once in an actual race. Limiting fuel flow reduced the horsepower to the point that these multi-wing hulls didn't have enough power to properly lift the boats in order to have a safe ride. I spoke with Chip Hanauer about the boat last Friday since I just purchased one from Mikey. To my dismay he just kind of wrinkled his nose and said that it was a terrible boat. The boat did have the script lettering on it when it was used as a display boat. The boat was ultimately sold to Bill Wurster, was reconfigured and is now the current U-37.
It is hard to say anything definitively about the configurations of the T-5 and T-6. Each year they were changed as they tried something on one of them and then if it worked they changed the other to match. Hence the conflicting info in this thread about shoes etc. At one point they had them at another they didn't. In the end they were close to identical from any aspect that would matter to a model boater.
The t-5 as Doug Shepard correctly states was actually built twice. The original center section was cut out and sold, then a new one built and the sponson canoes attached. The T-6 was a new hull. The T-3 was rebuilt but remained the T-3 throughout it's career, until sold to Ken Gregory and was last year's U-10 Hoss Mortgage. At the time it was sold Mark Smith said it was probably 2 mph slower than the T-5 or T-6.
Also, as has been stated here, the T-5 and T-6 were both sold and became the two Formula Boats now on the circuit.
All the boats went through so many changes I would have a hard time arguing with anyone about any particular configuration. Moveable front wing, no moveable front wing. Sponson shoes, no sponson shoes, just kind of depends on what year and what race.
I think both Phil Thomas and Steve Gualtieri both make excellent hulls if you want to build one of these. Steve's is the older T-3/T-2 design and Phil's is the later post 95 version. I think Doug may also make this although I am not certain. Be careful with Graphics however, I know of at least one graphic guy who's stuff is not correct, has the lettering at the wrong angle. I get mine from the people who did the real boat so, while a little more money, I know they are right. Not commneting on Wesley's stuff here, he is not the one I am referring to as being wrong. If you want to now who, you need to write me directly as I don't want to get into any kind of a flame war with the person.
Harry
Pic is from 2000
It was probably the back up boat, a former Leland hull. Not sure which one of Leleand's hull's it is since he had three that were almost identical.
That display boat was there yellow one they first got and raced before they got both the buds boats.It was probably the back up boat, a former Leland hull. Not sure which one of Leleand's hull's it is since he had three that were almost identical.
The U-3 boat was built brand new just for Ed Cooper.Never was a Bud, nor anything else for that matter.So which bud hull did the U3 Mastertire get is it a T5 and was it one of many hulls they owned and sold off. They must of had three at one time Cause Bud was running still when mastertire got the new hull.
here it is in RED
From the Columbia Cup 07
Nope, its the 9299 hull (Yellow & Red) (Leland) Bill Wurster bought it as a backup, later sold to Formula group, started out yellow (Wurster colors) and is currently a display boat for Formula Boats.here it is in RED
From the Columbia Cup 07
That's the 9399 hull, not the 9299 that was yellow
To keep it simple, look at it this way, both the T-5 (U-7) and T-6 (U-5) are very close, I dont think the average scale guy could remember all the changes, but the most obvious one is this, the T-7 only ran the salt water scoop as needed, and the T-6 (U-5) ALWAYS ran the salt water scoop, Bud or Formula ( very few pictures without it on)Okay, I'm curious as to whats the difference in these boats? I believe the T4 hull was a tri-wing hull. So what's the difference between T5 and T6?
Joe, you lost me. Are you saying the 9299 is the display AND backup boat or just the display and the 9399 is the backup boat? Here is what I found in the MHR:Nope, its the 9299 hull (Yellow & Red) (Leland) Bill Wurster bought it as a backup, later sold to Formula group, started out yellow (Wurster colors) and is currently a display boat for Formula Boats.here it is in RED
From the Columbia Cup 07
That's the 9399 hull, not the 9299 that was yellow
Joe, you lost me. Are you saying the 9299 is the display AND backup boat or just the display and the 9399 is the backup boat? Here is what I found in the MHR:Nope, its the 9299 hull (Yellow & Red) (Leland) Bill Wurster bought it as a backup, later sold to Formula group, started out yellow (Wurster colors) and is currently a display boat for Formula Boats.here it is in RED
From the Columbia Cup 07
That's the 9399 hull, not the 9299 that was yellow
9399 93 U-99.9 KISW/MISS ROCK 29 - 8 14 - 3 7 - 6 17 - 0
93 U-99.9 COORS LIGHT ( 43.50 - 45.50 ) ( 19.24 - 23.51 ) ( 10.13 - 12.38 ) ( 22.95 - 28.05 )
93 U-99.9 SPIRIT OF HAWAII PICKLEFORK DEPTH 115.0 INCHES
94-97 C U-100/1 PICO AMERICAN DREAM [ 12.94 - 15.81 ] D. BRANDT
97 U-99 TEAM STIHL
97 U-99 MISS VON'S
97 U-99 HIRE POWER
99 U-100 MISS PICO (IN SEATTLE)
04 U-00 MISS WINDERMERE REAL ESTATE
04 U-00 SKYWAY PARK BOWL & CASINO
05 U-99 LAKERIDGE PAVING
07 U-1 FORMULABOATS.COM
Did the t3 ever wear the script lettering?All the boats had the block lettering before 2001. That is when the logo was changed to the script style.
The T4 was of course the two wing boat that only raced once in an actual race. Limiting fuel flow reduced the horsepower to the point that these multi-wing hulls didn't have enough power to properly lift the boats in order to have a safe ride. I spoke with Chip Hanauer about the boat last Friday since I just purchased one from Mikey. To my dismay he just kind of wrinkled his nose and said that it was a terrible boat. The boat did have the script lettering on it when it was used as a display boat. The boat was ultimately sold to Bill Wurster, was reconfigured and is now the current U-37.
It is hard to say anything definitively about the configurations of the T-5 and T-6. Each year they were changed as they tried something on one of them and then if it worked they changed the other to match. Hence the conflicting info in this thread about shoes etc. At one point they had them at another they didn't. In the end they were close to identical from any aspect that would matter to a model boater.
The t-5 as Doug Shepard correctly states was actually built twice. The original center section was cut out and sold, then a new one built and the sponson canoes attached. The T-6 was a new hull. The T-3 was rebuilt but remained the T-3 throughout it's career, until sold to Ken Gregory and was last year's U-10 Hoss Mortgage. At the time it was sold Mark Smith said it was probably 2 mph slower than the T-5 or T-6.
Also, as has been stated here, the T-5 and T-6 were both sold and became the two Formula Boats now on the circuit.
All the boats went through so many changes I would have a hard time arguing with anyone about any particular configuration. Moveable front wing, no moveable front wing. Sponson shoes, no sponson shoes, just kind of depends on what year and what race.
I think both Phil Thomas and Steve Gualtieri both make excellent hulls if you want to build one of these. Steve's is the older T-3/T-2 design and Phil's is the later post 95 version. I think Doug may also make this although I am not certain. Be careful with Graphics however, I know of at least one graphic guy who's stuff is not correct, has the lettering at the wrong angle. I get mine from the people who did the real boat so, while a little more money, I know they are right. Not commneting on Wesley's stuff here, he is not the one I am referring to as being wrong. If you want to now who, you need to write me directly as I don't want to get into any kind of a flame war with the person.
Harry
Pic is from 2000
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