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Jeffmaturo

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RC boating has three organizations that govern our racing. There are two everyone knows about, (MPBA & NAMBA) but why doesn't anyone go by the APBA rules set in place for RC boats?

Also why do boats race clockwise but car racing is left turn only?

What ever happened to RC drag boat racing?

Just curious,

Jeff
 
R/C Unlimiteds was APBA until a few years ago. IIRC, the club switched to NAMBA due to better insurance and the fact that many members had NAMBA memberships already due to racing with Unlimiteds Northwest or one of the other NAMBA clubs. Just made sense to change for those reasons alone.

As far as R/C Drags, it was something that only worked with reliable clutches. As far as I've heard, the clutches that were available were not reliable enough in that kind of environment and the sport just kind of faded away
 
The APBA rules for RC boats were taken from the NAMBA rule book then modified to reflect the new organization. Similar to the way the NAMBA rules were adapted from IMPBA rules.
 
Hummmmm? Seems to me that it all happened sometime in the 90's, when one of our Oakland Wolverine Members (Detriot Club to some) wife was working for APBA and it seemed like a logical thing to try to unify all of RC boating under one organization. Rather than moving to all IMPBA or NAMBA the initiative was to approach APBA and see if it was interested. Jerry Betke probably has a better memory on this than I do and I may be way off but I'm sure he or Al will clear my memory up.

Thanks, John
 
I believe it had something to do with the division of the new tunnel classes not be able to become IMPBA classes other than special classes. And this did take place in the late 80's and early 90's. There were a lot of Tunnel classes back then with a lot of off the counter motors like K&B. It took a long time to get those into IMPBA. We had members that did not see those boats as RC racing boats and we have members that were running IMPBA boats and building Tunnel boats to run because of all the boats showing up at races. In them years when a Tunnel showed up to a race it ran in the Hydro classes. This upset the Hydro racers very much and caused a lot of division. Then we did get the Tunnels into as IMPBA classes then came the Outboard hydro running in the Tunnels classes. More division. But in the end it all worked out.
 
It is amazing how the story gets diluted and changed over the years... Actually the APBA thing happened in the mid 80's....

This is how the APBA thing happened....

It all started with the NAMBA administration in California unwillingness to supply financial statements and insurance papers to its membership....

The big split started in NAMBA District 8 ......District 9 was also at odds at that time with the NAMBA administration .....

After a brief rather nasty civil war , four of us from NAMBA District 8 approached Mike Jones , the APBA President at that time ,with the possibility of forming a APBA RC racing commission...

I was a personal friend of Mike Jones from our APBA Stock Outboard racing days starting in the '50s....I arranged the initial meeting....

The four of us who meet with Mike were myself Rod Geraghty,Jerry Dunlap , Ed Fisher and Bill Hornell.....

During a 30 minute meeting the APBA RC Racing Commission was formed.....

After a few years of NAMBA political upheaval Al Hobbs stepped into the administration of NAMBA and saved NAMBA for its membership....

He did one hell of a job doing so....All RC boating benefited from Al's leadership....

About the same time , Mark Bullard , was right...

Tommy Lee and some other Alabama tunnel racers put on some APBA outboard races due to IMPBAs resistance to the outboard classes to US-1...

There was a ton more to this story that would serve no one going into further detail....

I am making no judgements or predictions but it would not surprise me if in the future the APBA became a major player in RC Racing once again...
 
Rod, you put a lot of time and effort into what was going on back then.

Model boating succeeds when people step forward and give the effort needed. If people like you had not stepped up, we could never have gotten NAMBA where it is today.

That is why model boating is the great sport/hobby that it is now. People were willing to act on behalf of all model boaters

.
 
Sounds good Rod. And now we know the rest of the story. I do remember a lot of the problems with IMPBA back then. I was running a few outboards myself but never did any APBA races. And I do remember Al stepping up and putting NAMBA back together. And I heard of others helping him with it.
 
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All I remember is that we didn't get much support from APBA for model boating and membership an insurance was expensive . Thanks to Al and others that have worked on giving us the organization that we have today!!! Merry Christmas AL and everyone else and I for one am looking forward to a great 2017 and a great NAMBA Nat's in Vegas!!!

Brad
 
Model boating succeeds when people step forward and give the effort needed.
Amen!

The organizations need to support those willing to put forth that effort too. If we turn our back on those worker bees.........they'll leave us for dead.

It's a hobby. It's a release. Science meets art. Throw in a dash of competition and a sprinkle of great people and well........that's just good clean fun right there. Being a hobby though, none of us NEEDS to do it. Those that do the "work" part of the hobby do so in an effort to see that others get to have fun too. There's a certain satisfaction derived from seeing others dig it. I'm not sure I can explain it and not everyone get it anyway. I definitely know it when I see it though.

To those that have done the "work" over and over and over again......................thank you.
 
If you are wondering why our engines rotate counterclockwise (when viewed looking at the output shaft) - It is because model boat racing engines started as modified model aircraft engines.

Back in the day, these model aircraft engines were started by hand, by manually "flipping" the prop. There were no electric starters at the time. Since most people are right handed, the model engines were made to be manually started most easily by a right handed person. So that's why our crankshafts rotate in the direction that they do.

The direction of the crank rotation affects the forces of prop walk and torque on the hull and driveline, causing most boats, especially hydros, to want to right on their own. And that's why current model boat racers run their races clockwise.

With the advent of the brushless fast electric boats, you'd think they'd eventually convert to a "proper" counter clockwise course, so our models would look more like the rest of the world's full size racers...

[Left handed boat props would need to be developed, of course.]
 
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