Electric Rules Change Proposals

[drobie]

has anyone received the newsletter via e-mail? When I hoined last year,and renewed this year I had indicated that I would like to receive the newsletter electronically. To date I have not received one...
I wish to vote on these proposals and do not want to miss out.

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Steve, NAMBA has a new webmaster is well into revamping the website so electronic posting should improve soon and I think will include newsletters as well as the entire rulebook.

I received my newsletter (in WI) on the 19th so I'm guessing it might be a Canadian mail thing.

I have copies of the proposals and ballots and the voting deadline is Apr 15 so you have time. If you still haven't gotten a ballot by the end of March, PM me with your email address and I'll get one to you. (They can be faxed in to NAMBA.)

 

[brooks93]

Paul you just hit the nail on the head.

The fact is Namba wouldn't be as bad as it is if People would do something about it and not just bitch about it (Kevin not directed at you) .. all these people in FE namba and only handful that care to try and make it better.. Damn Shame if you ask me..

a orginanization is only as good as the members that drive it. FE has evolved into something big well compared to the way it was when it started but, we are still running the same rules that where made when FE could barely walk.. Now we are up to a slow jog and running out of air.

NAMBA is just a foundation to build off of its up to us to build it not NAMBA. Do you really want them to tell us whats best for us.. We are starting to get some FE leaders into the ranks of NAMBA but, we still don't have a leader to guide them or one that I see anyway.

 

[Kevin Whitehead]

Take a Midol, Kevin. If you don't like it, by all means, get off your ass and right your own proposal! Start a poll, make a contribution, DO SOMETHING!

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I know you do so much, Dan. How could I not know, you remind us at every opportunity you get!

KW

 

[Kevin Whitehead]

I formally invite Kevin to quit NAMBA immediately.  If he feels is so dissenfranchized that he has to resort to name calling, then do we really need him?

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Since it's formal and I don't have a tux, I'm going to have to say thanks but, no thanks.

P.S. It's nice to know that racers are appreciated, as long as they are NEEDED! That should draw more into the hobby!

KW

 

[Kevin Whitehead]

The "new" updated rule book has been in the works for years; Cathie told me last night that it should be out in the next couple months.  Also, the NAMBA website will be changed considerably in the next few weeks.  NAMBA is an organization of volunteers, and getting things done takes time (as anyone with volunteer experience already knows).  If we wanted it to be run by professionals, I can head the whining and screaing now when the dues would double or triple...... 

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What is wrong is this the national organization, for many years, has seen many things like acknowledgement of membership, rules updates, etc delayed ridiculuosly long periods of time and did nothing about it!

It has to be obvious to everyone that there is too many things being asked of Cathie and that the duties should be split apart into manageable size tasks being handled by separate individuals. If you are going top say that no one but Cathie will do these tasks, I have never seen any solicitations for help.

KW

 

[Al Waters]

Ok.......my turn guys.................. I see a lot of valid points here. If I miss responding to a few, please let me know.

Paul, I can call Cathie at any time and get a very good head count on FE racers. She is pretty good at this. She can tell me right now, at this moment, how many votes are in, how many are from each district, and how many are FE boaters...... but it is not public information for the members during the voting period out of fairness to the voters and proposals. You will just have to believe what I say as NAMBA VP.

Steve, please read the application again you filled out. It does not say that you will be sent the NAMBA newsletter via e-mail. It says that you will be able to download it from the NAMBA web site. Now it does say monthly which will be changed, because it is not a monthly newsletter. If NAMBA could get monthly articles from everyone, it would be a monthly magazine. It used to come out once a year. Now it is 3 times per year not including NAMBA voting, rule updates, etc.. I personally work with Cathie and take the articles she receives and edits and produce the newsletter to get it from once per year to three times per year.

Doug R. is correct about the new webmaster and the upcoming changes. They have been a long time coming. I will admit that. But it is just around the corner.

I personally spent my winter putting the NAMBA rule book in PDF format. It wasnt easy as we had issues and updates that slipped and have since been corrected. The recent newsletter you just received by mail is also available in an Internet version in color. I create the printers version which is 48 meg and the web version which is 1.6 meg. It is sitting in the new revised NAMBA web site for the final okay.

If you want either right now, I will send it to you. I have no problem with that. I can also send you the newsletters for the past few years as I did them ..........and still have them. But there are no FE articles in there.

You want to be heard by NAMBA? You will have the VP, Scale Chairman (same guy) and records chairman for NAMBA at the FE Nats. Little do any of you know, those same two guys will be running for NAMBA President in the next election.

I don't know what else to tell you. We will be there for you. If there is more than this that you would like at this time....talk to me.

I do have one thing to say. Somebody should thank Terry and Doug who have stepped up to be District Directors for 2 and 4.

Make that two things ....... there is a lot of information and knowledge out here. It would sure translate better if it made the Propwash so that everyone could reap the benefits. Thank you.

Al Waters

NAMBA Vice President

NAMBA Scale Unlimited Chairman

 

[brooks93]

I personally spent my winter putting the NAMBA rule book in PDF format.

LOL Al it probably a little late but, I could of converted it for you in about a day.. Got some software that imports from a scanner to word so you can edit it and then prints to a file as pdf..

better late then never.. I guess

 

[SteveReesor]

Hi Al,

You are correct, my mistake...I did receive my propwash yesterday and Neil and I will be returning our ballots via Fax.

Looking forward to meeting you in Michigan.

Thanks for the words of encouragement and you are right regarding Terry and Doug (whom I will meet for the first time at Michigan as well). Stepping up to the plate is a oftimes a thankless job. I do appreciate those who give a little extra (more like alot) to provide us with the venues and sanctions so that we can race.

Steve

 

[Paul Pachmayer]

Hello Al,

Paul, I can call Cathie at any time and get a very good head count on FE racers. She is pretty good at this. She can tell me right now, at this moment, how many votes are in, how many are from each district, and how many are FE boaters.

I don't think she has a clue as to how many NAMBA FE racers there are. That's not a slam by any means it's just the fact that my very good friend Doug (#3 DD) has tried to get that very information from Cathie. She couldn't produce. Doug wanted the names of the registered FE racers to compile a list by district.

I've been friends with Doug from the beginning, here's a guy that spends countless hours trying to promote the hobby. He also goes above and beyond to put a class event on every year, not to mention other events that are scale. The reson I mention this is he's the kind of DD you want and he should have been able to get this kind of info. I'd vote him in as President of NAMBA in a second, he would get the job done way before he'd stick a boat in the water.

Paul.

 

[Al Waters]

Steve,

like you, I will be meeting a lot of people including Tery and Doug R. for the first time. Thats the good thing about all of this.

Paul,

I guess that I cant say that Cathie knows every FE boater out there as there is no check off list on the application form. But she will give a list to a DD of all boaters in their district for verification of insurance for racing.

She wont give member lists of one district to another district. We have run into indentity and privacy issues today that didnt occur in years past. And it prevents mass mailings.

There are ways to get out to everyone any necessary info...but NAMBA will not be a directory for everyone.

The best way to get a hold of everyone is the Propwash. Terry did very well in this last newsletter. The IW seems to do an exceelant job also. Thanks.

Al Waters

NAMBA Vice President

NAMBA Scale Unlimited Chairman

 

[Dan Chase]

Al, What would it take to make a sperate database so that NAMBA members can be tracked by their area of interest? It seems like it could save NAMBA money to direct mailings to the specific members that may be effected. They should also be able to check more then one area of interest, I know there quite a few racers that race both nitro & gas or nitro & electric.

 

[drobie]

I completely understand what Al is saying regarding privacy issues, but there is a workaround.

A Fast Electric rep in every District who would communicate regularly with the FE Chair. A regular FE column in Propwash would help.

Another thing that would help promote the organization is a club directory on the website.

Want to see an rc organization that gets it right? www.amya.org

 

[Al Waters]

Dan,

the best thing to do would be to ask Cathie. She would have the answer on that one.

I know that NAMBA believes that any information or direct mailers available to Nitro boaters should be available to FE, Gas, Warship, and the pleasure boater. That is only fair and you reach out to all of the membership.

I am guessing, but I would think that reaching out to everyone (the effectiveness), and how easy that would be, outweighs the savings.

You made me think about Steve's comment thinking that the newsletter would be e-mailed to him rather than a notification that it was available on the NAMBA site.

Cathie informed me that it is amazing the number of e-mail addresses that come up not in service when she would inform people that the newsletter was uploaded. People change ISP's a lot, but informing her of the change just doesn't happen like it should. It's just one of those things.

Doug..... BINGO.......... You got it my friend!

Our district has an District FE Chairman. Jeff Vasquez. I know that Jeff has not been as active the past few years and FE doesnt have per say a district points series in our district (Jeff and I tried in the past), but he is available to people and the point man in our district. I have to also give credit to Mark (nitro boater) Grim who has been working with somebody (I dont know who) and setting up annual FE Time Trials at Legg Lake.

........a club directory??? The NAMBA web site will link any club to its directory. here is the link.

http://www.namba.com/web2001/district.htm#

District 2 and 4 are ready if they go namba2.com, namba2.net, namba4.com, etc.

......or MMEU can go with the club web site link.

I maintain our District 19 web site.......... ask and you are on there. It's not a problem.

.....a regular article in the Propwash?? Anybody and everybody ..............you send it, it will get printed. Lipo batteries, district news, you name it. Oops, Terry D. did the Lipos. Thanks Terry.

I wrote an article on CDing the FE Nats in Los Angeles......... anybody remember that one?

I plan on writing one on my trip to the FE Nats. I am not a good writer, but Cathie will edit anything sent to her. I will be busy so somebody take photos.

Did I miss anything? Everybody still awake???

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See ya

Al Waters

NAMBA Vice President

NAMBA Scale Unlimited Chairman