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Back to the subject of engine temp, I have a JAE .12 ultralight Novarossi air cooled and it works great but it gets so hot the glow plug actually turns black and its literally steaming when I bring it in. I tried running water cooling but lost a little speed and rpm. Does anybody have a good way to run different levels of restriction on the water cooling to get the best running temp?
 
Back to the subject of engine temp, I have a JAE .12 ultralight Novarossi air cooled and it works great but it gets so hot the glow plug actually turns black and its literally steaming when I bring it in. I tried running water cooling but lost a little speed and rpm. Does anybody have a good way to run different levels of restriction on the water cooling to get the best running temp?
Greg, as you see, these .12 motor like to run pretty hot...if it does not act hot (leaning, sagging, etc) it might be fine like it is. As for water restriction, I use a needle valve in the water line and just dial in the amount of cooling I need as the weather changes...it does not tkae much water even on the crazy hot Texas days! As you saw, if you lose RPM then you are running too cold.

Glenn
 
Glenn would you be willing to do a write up in the how to section on the wire drive? Please! !!! Thinking this would be great for my Orlic carbon 12!!!! Thanks Kevin ....
Kevin, I will try to grab some time to write something. Is there a specific part of the system you want info on?

GQ
 
Glenn what diam wire is that & diam of the stub, i assume the stub runs in ball bearings. Did you join them with loctite or solder, also what diam wire would you use going up in size for .21 motors. Thanks Martin.
Hey Martin, On the .12 boats I run .062 wire with .125 stub shaft, Yes they run in bearings. I have tried several different ways to hold the stub to the wire...silver solder, loctite and hard silver solder. I run the wire all the way through the stub shaft (the stub is actually tubing) and have had a hard time getting the solder all the down the length of the joint. I may try it again using Charles Perdue"s method of tinning the tube and wire before putting them together. My latest method involves keying the wire into a slot in the stub and then using hard silver solder to hold them together.

I am running a wire that Charles made me in my latest .21 boat. It is .098 I think and works great!

Glenn
 
Hey Glenn that would be awesome! Lets just put it this way I would have no idea where to start ... On another note and not sure when but I will need to get another 12 from you!

Thanks Kevin ....
 
I think that Glenn and I use a similar approch to making the wire drive. The wire drive is not difficult to make, it just a little different. For the initial setup, I make a drawing of the drive on a 1 to 1 scale, with a straight line representing the bottom of the hull. Mark the strut position and the engine drive collet position on the drawing. I then take a peice of wire that is longer than the actual length of the driveline so that I can hold it without interferring with the actual arc of the wire. Next, I bend the wire in an arc using my hands on each end of the wire so that it aligns with the collet and the strut in the position it would be in as it enters both peices. I place this over the drawing and have someone draw a line along the wires natural arc. This is the curve that I use to set up the driveline in the boat. This is very important in reducing the amount of drag and heat of the flexing of the wire as it spins. Depending on the setup, the engine usually sits at about a 5 to 7 degree angle in the boat.

A bushing placed in the center of the length of the wire helps reduce the harmonics of the wire drive.

I also use ball bearings in the strut. One of the things that I do a little different is take a peice of brass tubing about 1/8 inch long and solder it on the very front end of the prop shaft. I then drill and tap a 4-40 srew hole just behind the front bearings in the strut and put a VERY short screw in it. This prevents the prop shaft from coming out of the strut if the wire breaks.

I am running the wire drive in my 21 and 45 riggers with no problems.

I am not trying to butt-in, just trying to add to Glenns post.

Charles
 
Good info Charles thank you, how do you hold the bushing in the stuffing tube & what is it made from. I assume because the curve in the tube is the same as the natural curve of the wire by having a centre bush it holds the wire on the centre line of the curved tube. Rather than with no bushing where the wire would touch the high spot of the tube. What diam stuffing tube would you use on a .12 & .21 with a wire drive. Thanks Martin.
 
Hello Martin, I use a 1/4 od brass tubing for the stuffing tube on all of the wire drives. I terminate the brass tubing just below the bottom of the hull. I have used vespel and torlon for the bushing. Something that does not require lubrication.

I machine the bushing with a small flange and just before the flange, reduce the diameter of the bushing with a small notch and crimp the end of the brass tubing on 2 sides into this notch. This allows the bushing to self-align with the wire. The bushing is aligned in the same arc as the centerline of the wire. Its purpose is to help stablize the wire to dampen the vibrations of the engine and prop pulsations in the wire.

Charles
 
Hey Charles! I'm glad you jumped in! Yeah guys, the stuff Charles has said is very close to how I do it. I do not run the center bushing in the .12 boats, but do have it in the .21 setup Charles made for me.

When I get around to writing something I will include some pictures of how to develop the stuffing box shape like Charles described...this is CRAZY important!

Glenn
 

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