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I guess good things come to those who wait. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Preston_Hall said:
BTW- what's with the full first name bit? Reminds me of when I was a kid, only heard the full first name if I was in trouble.
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You ain't tellin me nothin bout first names. P is a middle initial. :lol:Don Ferrette said:I guess good things come to those who wait. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Preston_Hall said:
BTW- what's with the full first name bit? Reminds me of when I was a kid, only heard the full first name if I was in trouble.
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Sorry guys, but I have to ask this question...
How can IMPBA, being a US organisation, have WORLD speed records ???
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Stein
How can IMPBA, being a US organisation, have WORLD speed records ???
Regards,
Stein
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Hi Stein,
It is open to all boaters.
Paul.
Well the I in IMPBA is International, just happens to be based out of the United States. Just like the UN.
It is open to all boaters.Paul.
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IMPBAStein Tumert said:
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Join if you like. Maybe you were thinking of NAMBA. Do we all need to join Guiness World Book of Records? :unsure:
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I think I'm going to make an effort for those Steam records. I'd stand a better chance at stokin a good fire in a boiler than I would at runnin a rigger at 121.Preston_Hall said:
Scott Norris
LOL @ Scott! The R/C Steam speeds are slow, but I'm pretty sure there are some Steam powered Tethered boats that have run close to, or exceeded 100 mph.
Remember! Old Steam locomotives were much more powerful than the Diesels that replaced them.
Remember! Old Steam locomotives were much more powerful than the Diesels that replaced them.
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Many of those steam records were set by Sol Rubino i think. I saw him running a fast steamer once, he was from the Chicago area. Not much to look at but they were faster than a tug.
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Well guys....time to realise there is a world outside US...
IMPBA may well be "International" in the name, but I think all involved know that this is a US association. (I have been an IMPBA member myself)
IMPBA does not maintain any international communication with the model speed boat community around the world. As long as that is the case it is far fetched to call the records "world speed records." Appropriate would be US speed records.
The only association today for model speed boats doing that is NAVIGA (www.naviga.org) Ask Andy Brown what is truly international, he has been to the NAVIGA world championship a few times...participants from more than 30 countries...
(I have participated in IMPBA Internats so I have seen the difference myself)
Cheers,
Stein - lol
IMPBA may well be "International" in the name, but I think all involved know that this is a US association. (I have been an IMPBA member myself)
IMPBA does not maintain any international communication with the model speed boat community around the world. As long as that is the case it is far fetched to call the records "world speed records." Appropriate would be US speed records.
The only association today for model speed boats doing that is NAVIGA (www.naviga.org) Ask Andy Brown what is truly international, he has been to the NAVIGA world championship a few times...participants from more than 30 countries...
(I have participated in IMPBA Internats so I have seen the difference myself)
Cheers,
Stein - lol
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Don Ferrette said:I guess good things come to those who wait. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Preston_Hall said:
BTW- what's with the full first name bit? Reminds me of when I was a kid, only heard the full first name if I was in trouble.
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Thanks to Dr. Brian Schymick for getting the IMPBA site updated . Brian has spent a lot of time getting this thing straightened around and updated, as well as functioning as the D14 Director and treasurer. The website once brought up to date will be a LOT easier to keep current.. Tony J
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IMPBA might well be called International but its actually an American organisation and as such, the records are really American records. I don't think there is too much doubt about that. If someone wants to call them World records then fine, but its a big model boat world out there with lots going on that's nothing to do with the IMPBA. For example, if some guy in China goes 150 mph with a rigger, what happens then, does he have to be in IMPBA to call it a World record. I don't think so.
Don't shoot me, I'm just adding to Steins comments.
Don't shoot me, I'm just adding to Steins comments.
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Hey Guys,
You know, funny thing is I didn't hear any griping when the guys from Germany came over and set several world SAW records in NAMBA? Sounds pretty "International" to me.
Paul.
You know, funny thing is I didn't hear any griping when the guys from Germany came over and set several world SAW records in NAMBA? Sounds pretty "International" to me.
Paul.
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it probably would never happen .... there on the metric system????DaveMarles said:, if some guy in China goes 150 mph with a rigger, what happens then, does he have to be in IMPBA to call it a World record. I don't think so. Don't shoot me, I'm just adding to Steins comments.
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It's still a WORLD record within that given organization. There is absolutely nothing preventing Dave, Stein or say Tim & the Aussie boys from forming a club & becoming part of the IMPBA. You choose to run in a particular org. & that is YOUR choice. And the IMPBA is not just a US thing, there are clubs in Canada (it's NOT the US), the Bahamas & I think the Virgin Islands if I'm not mistaken. Anyone in the world can join IMPBA & if it's a new place they just add a new district to the list. And just to set things straight these are referred to IMPBA World Records which means no IMPBA member worldwide has gone faster. If any of you guys think you can top these marks then hold your own sanctioned event (it doesn't cost much in sanction fees either) or come over here & have some fun. It's like Paul said- "the I in IMPBA is International, just happens to be based out of the United States. Just like the UN. It is open to all boaters." B)DaveMarles said:IMPBA might well be called International but its actually an American organisation and as such, the records are really American records. I don't think there is too much doubt about that. If someone wants to call them World records then fine, but its a big model boat world out there with lots going on that's nothing to do with the IMPBA. For example, if some guy in China goes 150 mph with a rigger, what happens then, does he have to be in IMPBA to call it a World record. I don't think so. Don't shoot me, I'm just adding to Steins comments.
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What are we, chopped liver........?
Last time i checked, Canada was a separate country from the USA. A significant component of regular IMPBA activity takes place in Canada with Canadian IMPBA members. One of IMPBA's largest clubs (# of members) is a Canadian club (Northern Lights Model Boat Club).
Last time i checked, Canada was a separate country from the USA. A significant component of regular IMPBA activity takes place in Canada with Canadian IMPBA members. One of IMPBA's largest clubs (# of members) is a Canadian club (Northern Lights Model Boat Club).
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Andy, can you recommend a prop size for a 28 lb Steamer turning 864 RPM that would get me into the 115-120 MPH range??AndyBrown said:LOL @ Scott! The R/C Steam speeds are slow, but I'm pretty sure there are some Steam powered Tethered boats that have run close to, or exceeded 100 mph.
Remember! Old Steam locomotives were much more powerful than the Diesels that replaced them.
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No wait, I've got one on my 21' Center console out back. I'll tweak on it with a sledge hammer and a bowling ball.
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Stein,Stein Tumert said:
Does NAVIGA sanction any kind of SAW events? I can't tell on the site. Can't read German or whatever that is.
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I do understand what Dave Marles said once in Japan we had some .21 riggers ran more than 100 mph in 1999 ago and never heard from these achivements in IMPBA nor NAMBA. Maybe because the JMPBA and other important assotiations are not affiliated to IMPBA or just understand it less important.
There is a huge universe of model boating activity around the world and it's quite hard to believe that things just happen in one spot.
For us in Brazil we already have lot of problems to support our local pond and club so to be affiliated to the abroad IMPBA or NAMBA would be another problem to deal with it.
Different classes, different competition rules,and a different local reality makes all this stuff hard to puzzle .
If you take a look to our neighboor country Argentina they only run FSR classes and have attended Naviga World Cups for the last twenty years and there is only a very small group of people running boats there so the secret here is " BE TINY BUT WELL ORGANIZED .
Wish one day we can do the same here!
Gill
There is a huge universe of model boating activity around the world and it's quite hard to believe that things just happen in one spot.
For us in Brazil we already have lot of problems to support our local pond and club so to be affiliated to the abroad IMPBA or NAMBA would be another problem to deal with it.
Different classes, different competition rules,and a different local reality makes all this stuff hard to puzzle .
If you take a look to our neighboor country Argentina they only run FSR classes and have attended Naviga World Cups for the last twenty years and there is only a very small group of people running boats there so the secret here is " BE TINY BUT WELL ORGANIZED .
Wish one day we can do the same here!
Gill
Really it's no different then calling a NAVIGA world champ, a "World Champion".
Some other countries are involved in NAVIGA, but not all. However ALL are welcome.
Same holds true for IMPBA.
Japan does not participate in IMPBA or NAVIGA. Maybe I'm a World minus Japan World record holder and the 2004 World minus Japan Champion in 3.5 hydro.
If NAVIGA put's on a record event then it could be called NAVIGA World records, becauase the are set under the rules of NAVIGA. Japan has World records that are set under the rules of JMPBA. Same goes for Australia and the UK.
It's really not a big deal and I really don't see any reason to fuss.
Unless there was only ONE World boat organization there will NEVER be a true World record holder or true World Champion boat racer.
I have a plaque presented to me by the IMPBA. It says " Andy Brown...the first in IMPBA to exceed 100 mph" NOT first in the world. A that time they had already run 100 mph in Japan and O'donnell had run 100 mph in NAMBA.
Some other countries are involved in NAVIGA, but not all. However ALL are welcome.
Same holds true for IMPBA.
Japan does not participate in IMPBA or NAVIGA. Maybe I'm a World minus Japan World record holder and the 2004 World minus Japan Champion in 3.5 hydro.
If NAVIGA put's on a record event then it could be called NAVIGA World records, becauase the are set under the rules of NAVIGA. Japan has World records that are set under the rules of JMPBA. Same goes for Australia and the UK.
It's really not a big deal and I really don't see any reason to fuss.
Unless there was only ONE World boat organization there will NEVER be a true World record holder or true World Champion boat racer.
I have a plaque presented to me by the IMPBA. It says " Andy Brown...the first in IMPBA to exceed 100 mph" NOT first in the world. A that time they had already run 100 mph in Japan and O'donnell had run 100 mph in NAMBA.
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