Tim K's crazy idea.........

[Don Ferrette]

"A crazy thought....

While outside playing ball hockey with my son I had a crazy thought.

It would be really nice if something good could come from this post.

It seems to me as long as there is a them and us mentality nothing will ever be solved even though we are all model boaters.

I remember a post a little while ago about how most people felt the time trial stuff at the Internats was becoming more of a waste of time than it was worth so this is what I suggest.

Have a true Internats.

Combine both Gas and Nitro at the same event doing away with the time trial stuff.

Run One heat of gas the next of nitro and so on.

If time permitted you could even have a true open hydro clas as well as an open mono class.

This would be great for the person that likes both ends of the hobby it would also give people a chance to get to know what the other guys are doing and dare I say make some new freinds.

Is this crazy or am I just naive enough to think it might work.

Any thoughts ?

A Naive Tim Kish"

I thought this should have it's own thread. I thought it's a pretty cool idea & no Tim you're not crazy...... B)

 

[ClayGlover]

Yes, the tt's take up days at the nats. You could fit a lot of heat races in those extra couple of days.

The tt guys ain't gonna like that though, then you have the US1 issue too... what would happen with that?

 

[Ron Olson]

Don, a great idea to an extent. A true Internat's would then also have to include electrics, steam, scale ships and sailboats, any and all classes that the IMPBA has.

Yes, I would like to see the Gas boats race at the Internat's. Having separate Internat's for the Nitro and Gas boats isn't right, we need to get up to date.

 

[Don Ferrette]

Yes, the tt's take up days at the nats.  You could fit a lot of heat races in those extra couple of days.
The tt guys ain't gonna like that though, then you have the US1 issue too...  what would happen with that?

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That was the idea of the old thread & 2 options were tossed around. First one was you dump the tt's completely & just crown a National Champion for each class, call it US-1 National Champion if you want. John Finch made a very good point when he said that outside of the IMPBA nobody has a clue what US-1 means. But everyone knows what National Champion or World Record holder means. If you like tt's (I do) go to a tt event & try to set a record (it ain't as easy as some think). Second was you hold the tt's a various tt events around the country & crown a US-1 at the end of those & the Nats. Personally I think that's way too much hassle. Just crown a National Champion & be done with it like John suggested. I know for a fact the reason you don't see Finch at the Internats anymore & myself as well lately is who can give up 11 or 12 days of vacation to go boat racing?? Unless the event is close by you have to add at the very least one day of travel on each end of the Nats in it's current layout. Then add one more day at the end to recover from 14+ hours of straight thru driving the preceeding day to get home (not to mention over a weeks worth of boat racing) before you even think of going back to work. This is why I probably won't be in Jackson this year, I just can't surrender that much time as it's over 14 hours away.

 

[ClayGlover]

John Finch made a very good point when he said that outside of the IMPBA nobody has a clue what US-1 means.

We used to be impba down in florida not to long ago, US1 is a prestigious award to be proud of. B) That said, it could be time for change? I believe the only people who really care about a combined internats is the ones who run both nitro and gas, not the boaters running gas only? I could be wrong on that. The problem with the time trial's is it just takes to long for everyone to get a go in all the classes @ one boat a run . You're right, 2 weeks is just to long for 95% of boaters to make happen. There would probably be twice the turn out if it could be done in less than a week, but even withh the tt's gone, the added gas classes would bring the event's duration back up. I won't be able to go race a full internat until I get all my kids off to college and retire , there just ain't enough time...

 

[Don Ferrette]

John Finch made a very good point when he said that outside of the IMPBA nobody has a clue what US-1 means.

We used to be impba down in florida not to long ago, US1 is a prestigious award to be proud of. B) That said, it could be time for change? I believe the only people who really care about a combined internats is the ones who run both nitro and gas, not the boaters running gas only?The problem with the time trial's is it just takes to long for everyone to get a go in all the classes @ one boat a run . You're right, 2 weeks is just to long for 95% of boaters to make happen. There would probably be twice the turn out if it could be done in less than a week, but even withh the tt's gone, the added gas classes would bring the event's duration back up. I won't be able to go race a full internat until I get all my kids off to college and retire , there just ain't enough time...

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Clay you make a good point. But I almost would be willing to bet that, with some hustle, you could pull off just heat racing of both gas & nitro in less time than gets used (wasted?) now with the current NITRO Internats. :unsure: