OFF TOPIC but Important!

[RaceCraftBearings]

Not something I would usually post but I feel this is

important enough that we should take note!

Gene Flaherty

4575 S.Texas Ave. # 208

Orlando, FL 32839

(407) 859-8573

[email protected]

Interesting consumer concept

Lets try this!!!

Have a great day:

Join the resistance!!!!

I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon

by the summer. Want

gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some

intelligent, united

action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas

on a certain day"

campaign that was going around last April or May!

The oil companies just

laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't

continue to "hurt"

ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an

inconvenience to us

than it was a problem for them.

BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with

a plan that can

really work.

Please read it and join with us!

By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at

about $1.50 is super

cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.72 for regular

unleaded in my town.

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have

conditioned us to

think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at

$1.50- $1.75, we need

to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS

control the

marketplace....not sellers. With the price of

gasoline going up more

each day, we consumers The only way we are going to

see the price of

gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook

by not purchasing

their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting

ourselves. How? Since we

all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas.

But we CAN have an

impact on gas prices if we all act together to force

a price war.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T

purchase ANY gasoline

from the two biggest companies (which now are one),

EXXON and MOBIL. If

they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined

to reduce their

prices. If they reduce their prices, the other

companies will have to

follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally

millions of Exxon and

Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now,

don't whimp out on me

at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how

simple it is to reach

millions of people!!

I am sending this note to about thirty people. If

each of you send it

to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) .. and those

300 send it to at

least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by

the time the message

reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have

reached over THREE

MILLION consumers! If those three million get

excited and pass this on

to ten friends each, then 30 million people will

have been contacted! If

it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE

HUNDRED

MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people.

That's all. (If

you don't understand how we can reach 300 million

and all you have to do

is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it,

you just aren't a

mathematician. But I am ... so trust me on this

one.)

How long would all that take? If each of us sends

this email out to ten

more people within one day of receipt, all 300

MILLION people could

conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!

I'll bet you didn't

think you and I had that much potential, did you!

Acting together we can

make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message

on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE

$1.30 RANGE

AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

 

[MarkScott]

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.

I can do that with ease.. Neither are in my area..

Mark..

 

[Mike G]

UCWATERSKI

Registered User

Posts: 20

(2/24/04 10:56 am)

Reply Help keep the price Down, not big on spam but we need help.

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Subject: GAS PRICES

Join the resistance!!!!

I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by the summer. Want

gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united

action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE

SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going

around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because

they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy

gas.

It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT,

whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it and join with us!

By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super

cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.97 for regular unleaded in my town.

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think

that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take

aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace....not

sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers

need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come

down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas!

And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our

cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices

if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from

the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are

not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they

reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to

have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas

buyers.

It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point...keep

reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at

least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) .... and those 300 send it to at least ten

more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the

sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION

consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten

friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes

one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.. (If you

don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send

this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician.

But I am ... so trust me on this one.

How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more

people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably

be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you

and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make

difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

Byron Scholle

Meeting Consultant

Intercall

513.588.3757-Office

513.470.8480-Mobile

[email protected]

wakeboard dude

Unregistered User

(2/24/04 3:15 pm)

Reply gas prices

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Byron. Please send me some of what you've been smoking. Thanks Dude

M GILMAN

Registered User

Posts: 16

(2/24/04 6:43 pm)

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Re: gas prices

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Wouldn't it make more sense to boycot the foriegn owned companies? There's a lot of flag waving going on at the moment, why not jump on the band wagon and keep the $$ at home? List the companies and thier parent companies so consumers can see where their $$'s are going!

Mike Gilman

Aussie GAS

Unregistered User

(2/25/04 12:09 am)

Reply So WHAT

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$3 per gallon huh??? well there is 3.75 Litres in a gallon.

so that would be 80C US per liter. which is 99C Australian.

We have been paying that for a few years now. and I hear europe pays more.

SOOOOOO... Whats your problem???????

mpskier

Registered User

Posts: 1

(2/25/04 12:49 pm)

Reply Gasoline Prices

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While in no way do I speak for ExxonMobil; here's my two cents worth on this subject.

Byron obviously has no real understanding of the oil and gas industry. A fully integrated oil company, such as Exxon Mobil Corporation, does not make a substantial profit on its gasoline sales. In fact, gasoline sales are a minor contributor to the overall profitability of integrated oil companies. Furthermore, most gas stations that are branded either Exxon or Mobil are not, in fact, owned by ExxonMobil. The majority of gas stations bearing the Exxon or Mobil brand name are actually “Mom and Pop” type stores that are selling Exxon or Mobil branded gasoline under a contract with ExxonMobil. Given the fact that generally Mom and Pop are counting on selling large volumes with little mark up to stay in business and be profitable, who would really be hurt by Byron's plan? While ultimately a large integrated oil company may sell less gasoline through this scheme, lower sales would more likely create a scenario as follows rather than decreasing the price at the pump as Byron believes: (1) Mom and Pop go out of business; (2) The Oil Company has fewer customers buying gas; (3) The Oil Company decides to focus on more profitable areas of its business; (4) The Oil Company closes one or more refineries; (5) gasoline prices go up because there is less supply; (6) many people are now unemployed (including Mom and Pop); (7) the economy is now in worse shape since gasoline prices are higher as is unemployment; and (8) The Oil Company continues to make a profit because it redeployed its capital in a more efficient manner. While I admit this is an extreme example, I think it illustrates the point I am trying to make.

If Byron really wants to take someone to task regarding the price of gasoline, he should complain to his governmental entities about the exorbitant amount of tax placed on motor fuel products. Taxes are approximately one-third of the cost of a gallon of gas. The federal excise tax is 18.4 cents per gallon, plus each state has an additional state tax, ranging from 8.0 cents per gallon (Alaska) to 36.1 cents per gallon (Hawaii). Several states also have additional taxes that are based on a percentage of the total sale, which is not included in these figures. However, Byron probably would not complain to his governmental entities about the taxes because he's a bleeding heart liberal that likes to spend the taxpayers’ money on non-efficient government programs.

Another course of action available to Byron would be to ask his government why the United States is held hostage to the Middle East rather than producing the reserves contained within our own country.

I could go on and on but enough is enough... I've said my piece.

Mark Peterson

Houston, Texas

GK

Unregistered User

(2/25/04 1:44 pm)

Reply Clear up one thing

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Just wanted to clear one thing up. Byron didn't write that email, his name just got stuck at the bottom when he forwarded it to some people. The moron who posted it on here didn't remove his name. Sorry Byron.

alaska skier

Unregistered User

(2/25/04 3:32 pm)

Reply mark P

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Don't any of you forget that the land that Pres Bush wanted to explorer in the nothern territoty, you know the

one that would mess up the caribu breeding grounds holds more oil than all than we could use for years to come? BTW caribu will scew anywhere so some drilling would mess that up.

thompjs

Unregistered User

(2/25/04 5:26 pm)

Reply Alaska Oil

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False -- complete pipe dream.

It would only change import/export ratio a few points.

If you want to lower demand for gasoline.

Ride your bicycle, the bus, the train (or walk).

boycotting until you run out of gas on the freeway does

nothing.

Mark P -- good job on the economics of large oil

companies.

 

[CySlyde]

well i don't buy from either of those companies anyways, and most of the stations around here are owned by three families.. so i highly doubt boycotting would do anything more than what mark pointed out.

now the real solution as was stated earlier.. buy a more fuel efficient auto, buy a non gasoline powered auto, use public transpotation, or use a alternate form of transportation like biking or walking.

btw i ride almost as many miles as i drive in the summer

 

[TomMoorehouse]

whenever i see these things i just go over to www.truthorfiction.com and see what the truth really is...... of course this one is like all the others.....

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/oilterrorism.htm

tom

 

[Russell Bear]

I believe I heard that 43-47% was the taxes per gallon of pump gasoline.

 

[Grimracer]

Sorry guys.. for me i dont care. im buying it anyway...

Whatever the cost.

Grim

 

[Bob Kensill]

If you really want to get the gas prices down,you need to go about it in another way. Who else can you hurt that will make the gas makers lower their prices? The answer is the automakers. Quit buying those gas guzzling SUVs. Or maybe buy a good used car instead of new. Buy those fuel effecient cars and you will hit Detroit right in their wallet. Only they are big enough to effect change in gas prices. I,for one,am buying a nice "used" fuel efficient car this year.

Bob Kensill

 

[Slideblues]

Guy's the straight poop is there is NO DANG REASON to buy oil outside the US, There is no dependance on outside sources for oil other than price, the almighty dollar, fact is our reserves are briming full, tankers waiting offshore to unload. If we stoped buyin from outside sources it would be along time before our supplies would even come close to being exhausted, Its the oil companys manipulating the market on price and thats the bottom line.

The prices at the pump are controlled by what the local supplier want's to charge, not the refineries, and going up and down because of some foreign happening, its pure crap.

Straight from my cousin that been in the oil business his whole life,

Shamrock Oil in San Antone,

Gene

 

[Climate Models]

And even to take it one step further.....

Maybe we could boycot a certain model boat manufacturer and that would force them to lower prices too.

Oh...No wait...that would just put them out of business and then the remaining companies could all put their prices up because their was more demand for their products.

Seems like a backward solution to me.

Someone hit the nail right on the head with alternate fuel vehicles and cutting down on the huge gas guzzling SUV's that we all seem to love so much.

Your call.

Peter R.

www.climatemodels.com

 

[Russell Bear]

Someone hit the nail right on the head with alternate fuel vehicles and cutting down on the huge gas guzzling SUV's that we all seem to love so much.

Same argument apply's here. Stop making SUV's, they raise the price on the smaller cars.

 

[Slideblues]

Hmmm.....Well I could tie the wife and the mother in law on the roof rack...... :blink: SMACK! :wacko:

 

[Preston_Hall]

A couple realize the truth........................TAX.

I will gladly pay for the gas. It's all the tax I disagree with. If you look, some pumps will actually have label noting the amount of tax.

And you can't go after the individual stations or brands because their suppliers will just sell it to someone else.

And if $40,000 doesn't deter you from buying a SUV then what will?

 

[Slideblues]

Well ya cant lump all the SUV's into one catagory though, mine is a 97 four cyl, 5 gear, with 40,000 miles and I gave 7k for it last year. Tax is a question though, Ya see mine does not come up on the tax chart, I pay the same as a V-6

4 wheel drive with auto, same on insurance, yeah the one thats bout 8 to 10k higher than mine loaded.

Kinda screwed any way ya go,

Gene

 

[Jerry T]

Could it be that the leader(present administration) of this country is more interested in money from oil prices? Than the welfare of the people of the country that elected(?) him for personal fame and fortune? If I remember right his father told some good lies also. My 2 cents go for it.

 

[Mark]

Not much to say here but if you get the tax lowered which is the only part of the sale of fuel that doesn't cost anything to put in place the government would just put more tax on something else. Same as buying fuel from other smaller companies. People may go broke or look for another supplier which will do more sales thus increase prices while the big company puts prices up to compensate for less sales. The manufacturer in most cases I've known always seems to work the most and makes the least amount of money compared to the wholesaler, etc.

Big entities are very very hard to beat be it the Government or Mobil and you have to understand all the FACTS before we make a statement of who is ripping us off. Good luck on getting FACTS on big industry, giant companies don't seem to know what FACTS are.

 

[snowdog-2112]

Hey all,

QUOTE

$3 per gallon huh??? well there is 3.75 Litres in a gallon, so that would be 80C US per liter. which is 99C Australian.

We have been paying that for a few years now. and I hear europe pays more.

UNQUOTE

To answer just a tiny portion of this, in the part of Belgium I'm stationed in, the locals are paying one Euro per liter. Judging by the conversion above, that's 3.75 Euros for 1 gallon of gasoline and with the current exchange rate of .8 that equals $4.68 per gallon. You can take from this what you want but in my opinion the gas companies have done well to get where they are now at $1.00-$1.50 per gallon. What happened? :huh:

Snowdog

 

[izitbrokeyet?]

No conspiracy theory here….no political spin…….BUT……………………….

Here in the US we currently pay much less than most of the world in gasoline prices (I’ve been there and I’ve bought it). Our “highest” gas prices are on par with what Europe was paying years ago.

Just a few months ago it cost me well over $50 just to fuel up a little Alpha Romeo in Tuscany. I’m going to be laughing when I see the look on the face of my friends who drive Excursions (and the like) at the pump.

I'm guessing it will cost $120+

Bring the pain…

it’s been on the way for a while now……

 

[Don Ferrette]

Could it be that the leader(present administration) of this country is more interested in money from oil prices? Than the welfare of the people of the country that elected(?) him for personal fame and fortune? If I remember right his father told some good lies also. My 2 cents go for it.

Weak, real weak. If you gonna slam Bush & his dad you might as well slam them all. It's all B.S. as the oil companies CONTROL this country. Doesn't matter who is sitting in the big chair, NONE of them will touch the oil companies. Why?? Money, plain and simple. Put the money in the right pocket & it's a done deal which is what the oil companies do year in & year out. Doesn't anyone ever stop to wonder WHY the oil companies post RECORD profits every single year...... <_<

 

[Joe_Knesek]

I doubt we will see $3.00 gas prices for a few reasons. Mainly, it's an election year and GW's an oilman and he will not support $3.00 prior to the election. He will do whatever it takes to keep the prices low until then. It doesn't hurt to have the VP being an oilman too. Secondly, there is no real shortage of oil like the media wants you to think. I'm basing this on the fact that my oil royalties have stayed constant for the past 3 years. The only thing getting pumped out of the my oil well has been natural gas.