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What grade of alu are recommended for making head buttons ?
4032 It will not out grow the sleeve.

Considering who made this post, I will sure try 4032. Found it at McMaster.com

Jack:

Interested in hearing what you know about this alloy for head buttons.

I had a lot of detonation with other alloys until I used 7075. How is 4032 for detonation. Also, how much clearance do you prefer between button and sleeve for a .21? I like a snap fit - no press at all, but tight snap.
 
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What grade of alu are recommended for making head buttons ?
4032 It will not out grow the sleeve.

Considering who made this post, I will sure try 4032. Found it at McMaster.com

Jack:

Interested in hearing what you know about this alloy for head buttons.

I had a lot of detonation with other alloys until I used 7075. How is 4032 for detonation. Also, how much clearance do you prefer between button and sleeve for a .21? I like a snap fit - no press at all, but tight snap.
Marty; Check out the expansion rate for the different alum.and compare to 360 or 464 brass and you will see the difference. Snap fit is ok,no problem with detonation. J.ODonnell
 
What grade of alu are recommended for making head buttons ?
4032 It will not out grow the sleeve.

Considering who made this post, I will sure try 4032. Found it at McMaster.com

Jack:

Interested in hearing what you know about this alloy for head buttons.

I had a lot of detonation with other alloys until I used 7075. How is 4032 for detonation. Also, how much clearance do you prefer between button and sleeve for a .21? I like a snap fit - no press at all, but tight snap.
Marty; Check out the expansion rate for the different alum.and compare to 360 or 464 brass and you will see the difference. Snap fit is ok,no problem with detonation. J.ODonnell

Jack:

What is your preferred fit on a .21 engine?
 
EXPANSION!!! Now there is something to look at. :) If a head button expanded enough could we loose p/l fit? AND I am assuming the button will "bounce back" to its original state...but will the sleeve-p/l fit contract also. There is not much we can do about the sleeve material without a major project involving a lot of machining, but we can look at button material. Very interesting revelation.

Norm Doerr
 
Norm and Others,

I think you want the whole assembly to expand aprox. at the same rate.

The button material is

only part of the combustion equation. :D

Have Fun Testing Everybody,

Mark Sholund
 
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Mark;

I agree with you on that. There are a bunch of things involved. Piston, sleeve, head button etc. Obviously we need those to all work together I can tell you from personal experience the the water jacket is a big deal :) Or lack of a water jacket in some cases. I have seen a LOT of engines that are "overcooled" .
 
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Norm and Others,

I think you want the whole assembly to expand aprox. at the same rate.

There are a few other things to consider such as: depth of glow

plug in the combustion chamber and bowl shape. There are some new

depths and bowl shapes that work better than what some are using

currently. The pipe design really helps this new combination.

Custom pipes are the way to go. Also, water jacket design is

critical for the correct heat in the motor. The button material is

only part of the combustion equation. :D

Have Fun Testing Everybody,

Mark Sholund
What does plug depth and bowl shape have to do with head material ??
 
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