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Thanks for the info Dave but I'm running into the same situation, it'll cost almost as much to ship an empty box as a full one, when they get this big it's priced by size. The kicker here is what I need is real close to the limit of it going into what's called OS2 rates, then cost of shipping absolutely skyrockets. Got another Richmond area lead I'm working on, never thought finding someone to make a box would be so difficult. Sure miss the guy I had for years who did custom made boxes out of his home, was 3 miles away. He retired from doing it 2 years ago.