hawk 21

Lay26

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• Jan 19, 2004

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i'm looking for a 20 hydro and i was wondering if the hawk 21 would be able to handle roadrunners and the rest of riggers racing today. what would make it run like a bat out of hell. meaning are there any changes to the hull that makes it more competitive?

 

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TomMoorehouse

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• Jan 19, 2004

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Gary Preusse is always winning races with them. His are not exactly built like the kit. I have one that I built with Gary's guidance (a little)..... used only 1 season that I could sell ya. its working great.

 

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• Jan 19, 2004

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how much are you asking and what does it have? is it built already?any hardware, what was the best performing prop? didn't you have a firefighter 21?

 

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• Jan 19, 2004

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Lay26 said:

didn't you have a firefighter 21?

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Ummmmm, Tom designs the Firefighter 21!

 

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• Jan 20, 2004

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Gary has the kits on sale, if you're interested in building one. He will gladly tell you what needs to be changed, if I remember he sends a seperate page in what to change, which is not much. Gary 630-279-2451.

He runs his with Octura 1450 so do I with great results.

Fuel, Red Max 60% nitro, 20% oil (10% castor, 10% Syn), add 10 drops Midas touch per gl. Head clearance 8. Garagthy carbs.

 

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TomMoorehouse

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• Jan 20, 2004

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yes.... i now run the FireFighter .21. this is not to say anything bad about the Hawk.... I just like to run my own designs.

My hawk for sale is pretty much a bare hull. it is completed, has the rudder, turn fin, cant remember if I still have the servos in it. Almost none of the dumas wood was used in the boat. The tub is designed for the octura 3-30 mount and a powersurge tank. 3.5" wide tub. It is light and built well. The sponsons could use a better coat of paint but would be fine if you are not a perfectionist.

 

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• Jan 20, 2004

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tom did you build the center section smaller as gary recomends? are the fire fighter 21 ready? and how much would you sell the hawk for?

 

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TomMoorehouse

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• Jan 20, 2004

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The only real thing different to the shape of my hawk is that the tub is skinnier for the 3-30 mount.

the FireFighter .21's are not ready yet.... hopefully soon.

i guess i would sell it for $150 want pics?

 

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• Jan 21, 2004

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sure send me some pics

 

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TomMoorehouse

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• Jan 21, 2004

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ill try to take them tonight after work

 

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TomMoorehouse

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• Jan 23, 2004

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TomMoorehouse

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• Jan 23, 2004

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• Jan 23, 2004

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TomMoorehouse

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• Jan 23, 2004

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more info on my hawk:

upgraded sponson tubes.... not stock

lightened clamps

carbon fiber spar from gary p

only dumas wood in the boat are the top sponson blocks 1/4" plywood

rears are WOF stock shape

tub is 1/8 light ply with reinforcements

tub top 1/32 bottom 1/16 ply

eagle sg turn fin.... I always got razzed for that but it works great for me.

hobby poxy paint. tub/clear is great. sponsons are not as good but they can hold up if you want.

boat is setup for a MAC engine NR should be fine

Radio box lid and engine bay lid have seen batter days but that is real minor

setup for a powersurge fuel tank

needs the marine specilities strut.

brass on brass flex shaft setup

rudder servo is a hitec hs225

throttle servo is removed

speedmaster rudder

G&M seals

it is a hawk..... but other than the 2 sponson blocks that is all you will see on the boat from the kit.... everything else is optimized for weight/performance

what you see is what you would get..... let me know if you want specific pictures or have questions.

tom

 

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• Jan 23, 2004

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hey Tom what do you mean by,"sponsons are not as good but they can hold up if you want".

would you say that this boat can hold up to a 10 race season? what about the bottom of the boat, could you send me some pics of that.

i noticed that you have weights on the sponson tips, are they needed? does the boat run good? what about the engine lid, i would have to replace that. you said you had a mac 21 what prop and pipe length worked best. how come the rear sponsons have different shapes? seems to me that the boat is not in bad shape, $150 sounds fair is S&H included in the price or not.let me have your address.

 

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TomMoorehouse

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• Jan 24, 2004

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Lay26 said:

hey Tom what do you mean by,"sponsons are not as good but they can hold up if you want". would you say that this boat can hold up to a 10 race season? what about the bottom of the boat, could you send me some pics of that.

i noticed that you have weights on the sponson tips, are they needed? does the boat run good? what about the engine lid, i would have to replace that. you said you had a mac 21 what prop and pipe length worked best. how come the rear sponsons have different shapes? seems to me that the boat is not in bad shape, $150 sounds fair is S&H included in the price or not.let me have your address.

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hold up if you want.... refering to the paint. i am not the best painter. I think the blue was too light of a coat possibly. some wood grain can be seen through the paint. it is entirely painted with hobby poxy so it will withstand nitro abuse fine. did a real good on the tub, one of my best jobs there.

The boat was running a little to light for my taste hance the weight... adding another shim under the rear boom would be a better solution i would think..... i never got that far with the setup.

different shape rears..... welcome to hawk design 101. the boat is totally stock hawk shape other than the tub being narrower.

i cant remember the pipe length??? sold the engine already. A Nova Rossi would likely be better in this boat.

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• Jan 24, 2004

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